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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Didn't think there were HIMYM clips that didn't age like milk. Stupid Barney.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Stupid Barney.

Why say such things? Please explain further, if you can make the time to!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Barney is a sex-pest and ideologically way too close to incels.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

we have to remember this show is being told per the eyes of Ted Mosby, so may not be unbiased accounts of the people.

Thoughs on this thought on the show?

Incel?

Incel is a term closely associated with an online subculture of people who define themselves as unable to get a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one.

I don't think Barney has any problem with attracting or going into a relationship with the people he is in favor of partaking in a sexually manner with.

More of a narcissist with anti-feminist tendencies, from watching show, seems by the end he is less of both?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

we have to remember this show is being told per the eyes of Ted Mosby, so may not be unbiased accounts of the people.

That shit works with Walter White, since that character is shown to be a monster (even though people even didn't figure that out and started hating Skyler). Ted is shown as a goofball, but not fundamentally wrong. And in general, the viewer never gets the feeling that people are depicted in a distorted manner (except if it's for a joke).

Incel is the closest thing I could think of in the moment. He is not an incel in the show but exhibits much of the incel's worldview where he only draws his self-worth from his sexual "conquests" and highly objectifies women. Yes, it's exaggerated and clearly shown for laughs, but he's always shown as being a bit too awesome and as if his way of life is worth striving towards.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty 0 points 7 months ago

Ah, okay, I think I understand where you were coming from now, makes sense, hahaha

Thanks for explaining!

[–] chemical_cutthroat 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Some people take Barney seriously and don't realize that the over the top satire the character dripped was, in fact, satire.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty 1 points 7 months ago

Oh, thanks for explaining!

And other thing I read somewhere was that: we have to remember this show is being told per the eyes of Ted Mosby, so may not be unbiased accounts of the people.

hahahaha

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Satire needs a clarity of purpose and target lest it be mistaken and contribute towards what it intends to criticize.

They sold copies of "the bro code" which people bought unironically.

[–] chemical_cutthroat 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The artist cannot claim their audience. Just because idiots buy your shit doesn't mean that it was originally intended for them. Do you think the Wachowskis intended for the red pill movement to go the way it did?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They officially sold the bro code. You think that didn't influence the writing and encouraged flandersisation?

[–] chemical_cutthroat 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You mean, did the showrunners see that an aspect of the show was testing well with a large chunk of their audience and decide to amp up the traits that were enjoyed while simultaneously making merchandise to milk their customers with? They created a womanizing caricature of a single guy that most of us know, or at least know of. They dedicated massive chunks of time to the arc of that character, including multiple redemption arcs and growth moments. He went from The Playbook to getting married, divorced and being a dad over the course of the show. He was always the devil on Ted's shoulder, and Marshall was the angel. Barney showed the perils of perpetual single-life with poor judgement, and Marshall spent the show highlighting the difference in lifestyle when you marry young. So, yeah, they sold The Bro Code because it was one of the few marketable things from the show. They couldn't very well sell "Ted Mosby's Guide to 19th Century Gothic Architecture" or "Marshall and Lilly's Guide to Buying Your First Apartment." They marketed what would sell, and what sold was a joke about being a Bro.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

I guess it would be less cringe today if the current cultural context had less of the manosphere.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I thought casting one of the most famous openly gay actors for the role made it pretty clear

[–] chemical_cutthroat 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

He hadn't come out when he was cast. I don't think he came out until season 3 or so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] chemical_cutthroat 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The show started in 2005, the second season aired in September of 2006, and he came out in November of 2006. So, yeah, It was the or so of my "Season 3 or so".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I could've sworn the show started in 2010 but I guess that's just when I started watching it. I stand corrected.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

That's not in the text. I shouldn't have to know about the actor's personal life to get such a supposedly integral part of the character.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

His smile at the end. Haha

[–] jimmydoreisalefty 1 points 7 months ago

You got to take the wins wherever you can, hahahaha