Technology

Then it sounds like the "web" tab should be the default and the AI Overview should be the optional tab the user has to choose to go click on.

That's ok, we were already used to not getting what we wanted from your search and are already working on replacing you since you opted to replace yourselves with advertising instead of information, the role you were supposed to fulfill which you betrayed.

die in ignominy. Open source is the only way forward.

So you have a product that you've made into a system for getting answers. And then you couldn't be bothered to try and sanitize training data enough to get your answer system's new headline feature from spreading blatantly incorrect information? If it doesn't work, maybe don't ship it.

I mean yeah... if he had a solution they would be actually have the revolutionary AI tool the tech writers write about.

It's kinda written like a "gotcha" but it's really the fundamental problem with AI. We call it hallucinations now but a few years ago we just called it being wrong or returning bad results.

It's like saying we have teleportation working in that we can vaporize you on the spot but are just struggling to reconstruct you elsewhere. "It's halfway there!"

Until the AI is trustworthy enough to not require fact checking it afterwards it's just a toy.

Let's turn that frown upside down! Instead of saying "Google failed to generate a useful LLM to bolster its search feature," say "Google successfully replicated the output of an average Reddit troll!"

God I'm fucking sick of this loss leading speculative investment bullshit. It's hit some bizarre zenith that has infected everybody in the tech world, but nobody has any actual intention of being practical in the making of money, or the functionality of the product. I feel like we should just can the whole damned thing and start again.

Google really thinks they have no competition. Like, fuck, even Bing improved a lot with time.

This is what competition is now.

Putting out worthless things simply because everyone else is doing it.

Hey, Google: if your big tech friends jumped off a cliff, would you join 'em?

(Also why is the AI assistant on my phone opening up just by typing "hey Google?" 😡)

Then fucking turn it off

All I know when a publicly offered company slaps "AI" on their products, then its most likely a money launderi..i mean liquidation strat.

Well, according to an interview at The Vergewith Google CEO Sundar Pichai published earlier this week, just before criticism of the outputs really took off, these "hallucinations" are an "inherent feature" of  AI large language models (LLM), which is what drives AI Overviews, and this feature "is still an unsolved problem."

That's a lot of """quotation marks""" for something that is a very well established fact, and absolutely should not be a shock to anyone.

Yes, it's an unsolved problem. It always will be, because there is no algorithm for truth. All we can do is get incrementally better.

obviously not.
this isn't some innovation of theirs. it's a slapped together duct taped copy of other people's work, trained on other people's work.

Neither does ChatGPT... they over-hyped this tech so hard, I am afraid they are makers of their own demise...

Google is on a tear. First Bard, then Gemini, now snippets injected into search results. All spectacular failures.

"Are we making progress? Yes, we are," he added. "We have definitely made progress when we look at metrics on factuality year on year. We are all making it better, but it’s not solved."

Let’s be fair with our headlines!

CEO of Google Says It Is Still Solving for Its AI Providing Wildly Incorrect Information [and is okay with people dying from rattlesnake bite misinformation in the meantime]

What y'all are forgetting is that when it comes to dominating a technology space, historically, it's not proving the better product, is providing the cheapest/widest available product. With the goal being to capture enough of the market to get and retain that dominant position. Nobody knows what the threshold is for that until years later when the dust has settled.

So from Google's perspective if a new or current rival is going to get there first, then just push it out and fix it live. What are people going to do? Switch to Bing?

So is you want Google to stop doing this dumb broken LLM shite, use the network effect against them. Switch to a different search provider and browser and encourage all of your friends and family to do so as well.

How about turn it the fuck off since it sucks and eventually will kill someone.

So is google going to initiate a reverse class action law suit and sue the internet for creating flawed trading data?

Maybe Google should put a disclaimer... warning people it's not 100% accurate. Or.. just take down the technology because clearly their AI is chit tier.

We fucked up and we fired the people who could probably solve it and now they won't talk to us.