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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

Moral equivalency does not imply equivalent moral understanding, and moral understanding is required to be responsible for your moral choices.

[–] Droggelbecher 10 points 1 month ago

The confusion here comes from 'morally equal' being a vague term. Animals are equally worthy of moral consideration, but not equally capable of making moral choices and having a system of morals.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, the vegans in question are also human (one presumes), so it makes sense they consider they have agency over themselves, not - for instance - over a lion which might ought to make up its own mind. And vegan humans might try and persuade other humans to embrace vegan ethics without yet making the wider step of preaching to lions (who might complain of colonialism or cultural dominance).

One presumes vegan lions, if such were to exist, would argue against the exploitation of humans for food (as in zoos), without requiring humans to conform to the same ethical standard.

[–] essell 3 points 1 month ago

Best take on this by far. Beautiful.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lions don't have the moral agency nor the means to go vegan.

Dolphins on the other hand...

[–] PRUSSIA_x86 1 points 1 month ago

...are heartless bastards.

[–] Demigod787 -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Humans are superior to animals and as such would be self-sufficient and not eat animal products.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Humans are animals, your statement is non-sensical.

[–] Demigod787 1 points 3 weeks ago

That's the end goal of my veganism. I'm not vegan because I particularly love animals unconditionally. It's to further distinguish ourselves as species from the rest.