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Canadians are struggling to save for retirement, with many planning to push back the next phase of their life amid inflation and higher interest rates, according to a new survey from the Healthcare of Ontario Pension Plan.

Inflation has been slowly cooling in recent months, but at 4.4 per cent in April year over year it’s still more than double the central bank’s target rate of two per cent. The Bank of Canada last week raised its overnight rate to 4.75 per cent after several straight months of holding it steady, citing the risk of sticky inflation.

More than half of those surveyed aged 55 to 64 said if inflation keeps rising, they will have to push back their intended retirement date. Also, despite rising costs, almost 70 per cent of people surveyed said they would take lower pay in exchange for a better pension. Meanwhile, 78 per cent said they believe all employers should be required to contribute in some way towards pensions for workers.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wait, you guys have a retirement plan?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was in a strong Reddit karma position. Early retirement was looking good, but then the rug was pulled. Now I'm back to work here having to start all over again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Well. My 126k Reddit karma and $2.50 can buy a cup of coffee.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I started my retirement planning at age 17. The plan was to be able to retire to the lakeside and a workshop somewhere between 55 and 60.

Fucked up large scale economic "management", scammy financial advise, and a random financial setback pretty much made all that planning and effort a waste of time and money.

Here we are, 66 years old, crossing our fingers as we take a stab at being retired. We are lakeside and there is a shop, but only because we tossed everything aside a decade ago and used what was left of our retirement savings to buy a 1968 mobile home on a leased lot and found local employment. The workshop is an old park bathroom and shower that I got in exchange for figuring out how to move it to make room for a new one.

I'm sure that retirement planning is little more than a scam. Someone made money on all those investments, but it sure wasn't us! I'm actually glad I never had a company pension plan because it means there was nothing else for some shark to steal by declaring bankruptcy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I plan to work until I'm dead.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I'm scheduled to retire at the end of this month. I could keep working this job for at least another 3 years, but I'm already 66 with a family history of missing average life expectancy by a decade.

I spent 12 years of school doing what other people told me to do, doing it on their schedule, and putting up with bullies.

I spent 50 years in the workforce, doing what other people told me to do, doing it on their schedule, and (yippie!) putting up with bullies.

Maybe I'll crash and burn. Maybe I won't. Either way, I'm done with the bullies, and I'll do what I want on my own schedule.

If our leaders insist on treating us like children, they could at least act like our parents.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It seems that cycles of inflation and interest rate hikes works perfectly for a society that is capital driven requiring people to work longer and harder to maintain their lifestyles. Sometimes it seems like some less developed countries have the correct balance rather than pushing to work all the time and making people feel like less if the don't hustle all the time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

More than half of those surveyed aged 55 to 64 said if inflation keeps rising, they will have to push back their intended retirement date.

Really curious if those are people with actual retirement plans or just the people in general. So many older folks have nothing saved it's depressing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm curious to know if they realize that inflation consistently fell for nearly a year. The last reporting period was the first time we have seen an increase since June 2022, and even then it was only a meager 0.1pp increase. There is little to suggest that one outlier datapoint is a reversal in the trend. Further, with nearly a year of decline, there would have to be a seismic shift in the inflation rate just to return to June 2022 levels, let alone go higher.

I wonder if many meant: If prices keep rising...?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm getting slowly closer to fifty and have been saving for a long time, but ever creeping inflation and interest is seriously hampering it. The loans I should have been able to pay off became almost unsustainable over the pandemic and now I have to throw everything at the interest and can barely touch the principle.

I'm still making it and I'm in the luckiest ten percent or so of the xennials. I'll actually be able to retire. But if it's hard for me, what does that say about the other 90%?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I legitimately think retirement will be a largely nonexistent concept for anyone currently under 40.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

As someone approaching 40, I feel like I've watched retirement slip from my grasp over the last 5 years. At this point, I fully expect to be working until I die.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hear freedom 77 is the new freedom 55

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To play devil's advocate, retirement is a fairly recent phenomenon. It's only come about en masse in the last 2 centuries, and most people would get a few years of retirement before they died if they were lucky.

Retirement age was set at 65 in the 1930s but back then life expectancy was only 60. Now it's 81. So saving for retirement was much easier to do.

Plus those extra 15 years of life are some of the most expensive for the society in terms of a healthcare burden. Assuming life expectancy continues to rise, we're going to have to stomach later retirement, barring some technological breakthrough like robot nurses

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm glad to be living in our modern age. Worst case scenario, l have a one bedroom apartment and a gaming computer playing solitaire while being high AF listening to music on Spotify.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I have some savings. Not enough. And I doubt the equity I have will be sufficient either. I'm grateful for what I have, but I don't see retirement happening anytime soon.

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