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[–] AbouBenAdhem 45 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In the long run, humans whose biologies most closely resemble rats will have better medical outcomes and therefore greater evolutionary fitness.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Rise of the Skaven

[–] wabafee 28 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

My thought was they will always be in the frontiers of medicine since they are used as experiments. Results from rat experiments does not usually equate to be successful to humans. Not saying we should forgo ethics and do human experiments right away, just an observation.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

it doesnt equate to overall better rats either. its not like the cumulative knowledge of rat health is used against some population to make them better.

in fact, id argue this placement causes them worse outcomes overall as they are continually killed for analysis even upon success.

[–] wabafee 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah your right my observation is just more on the technology side of thing they are more advance. We just happen to know a lot about rats psychology and their anatomy as a side effect trying to advance ours.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Good shower thought nonetheless

[–] Shou 4 points 7 months ago

Don't forget mice. Those fuckers get all the treatments for cancer. Selfish bastards.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

The experiments are often done with modified rats (genetically or otherwise) to be closer to humans or they are in situations they would normally never get in (obesity or cancer...)

Makes it even more questionable if it's really worth it to do all this to have results that still not apply to humans. There is research for experiments that do not involve animals

[–] Arbiter 25 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Rat science in general is far beyond what humans can accomplish.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Why do you think it's called the rat race? We all just trying to catch up to them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Your thinking to the Earth. Earth was built by the mice

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

So long and thank you for the fish

[–] someguy3 5 points 7 months ago

I guess they pay for it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Rats are on a rolling release model, I prefer to be on a stable release schedule.