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[-] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago

I just wish genocide wasn't a given for both leading candidates.

[-] HipHoboHarold 21 points 2 weeks ago

And the fact that the democrats have shifted so far into acceptance that anyone against it is a terrible person has been amazing to watch. They called out the Nazis for the past few years, and now they're wondering if maybe the general idea behind it was OK.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Liberals weren't calling out Nazis. They were pretending everything was fine, rEaSon wIll pReVAIl and ThEsE aRE mY fRIEndS and ColLeaGuEs

[-] disguy_ovahea 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You mean Republicans. The vast majority of citizens and congresspeople speaking out against support of Israel are Democrats.

As of March 2024, 64% of Republican citizens support Israel’s actions vs. 18% of Democrats.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/642695/majority-disapprove-israeli-action-gaza.aspx

Republicans passed a bill to circumvent Biden’s pause in munitions supply. That’s after they tried to pass a standalone bill for Israel military aid in place of aid for Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Biden might not be everything you want, but voting for Biden is like hitting from the tee to the fairway. You're partway there, and set up well to take care of the rest. Voting for Trump is just teeing off straight into the water hazard.

On edit: Credit to Carlos Alazraqui for the golf analogy.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

And not voting is deciding to let the chimpanzee with a baseball bat play for you.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

Like I'm gonna vote for the dude but shits fucked, I live in a deep blue state, and I could vote for Nader and it wouldn't change a thing, lemme kvetch that Biden blows

[-] Pavidus 11 points 2 weeks ago

I totally understand this view, and I don't disagree with it completely. The part I have a hard time wrapping my head around is the fact that we all saw this coming for the last 4 years, and yet here we are, at the whim of the system we are in. All the blame cannot be placed on the (rightfully disheartened) voters here. We've been dealt the South Park special.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

The part I have a hard time wrapping my head around is the fact that we all saw this coming for the last 4 years, and yet here we are...

I hope/choose to believe that the reason we're here is that those leading the charge in our justice system knew they not only had to have an airtight case, but it also had to slowly tear him down and erode his support.

There are plenty of leaders throughout history who were exiled, deposed, or voted out only to come back stronger than ever. By taking an extremely methodical approach to all of the legal challenges against Trump, they've forced him to spend the majority of his time, energy, and money on those battles.

As always, time will tell...

[-] Pavidus 1 points 2 weeks ago

Very valid point!

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

the whole “voting Biden under duress” mood – not only will DNC refuse to give us anything other than Lesser Evil, they actively sabotage Not Evil

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Shit Lite™

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I don't like Biden, but I don't think he is a threat to the American way of life. Ineffectual? Absolutely. On the wrong side of history? So is most of our history, join the club. We do, as a nation, need to do better.

But I do, wholeheartedly believe that if Trump is elected, we will fall from a failed democracy, to fascism; and fascism always fails. Usually in a very violent manner for most concerned.

[-] masquenox -1 points 1 week ago

we will fall from a failed democracy,

You can't fail at something you never had the opportunity to try.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

There are flaws in this photo, "AMERICA HAS FALLEN" instead of "THE STATE HAS FALLEN", 12-hr clock instead of 24-hr clock on the TV screen.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago

Vote for the system, hope it collapses.

Real state haters don't vote.

[-] disguy_ovahea 7 points 2 weeks ago

Then real state haters let other people decide their fate.

[-] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago

They decide their own and don't rely on delegating it to some scumbag who intends to do it for them.

[-] disguy_ovahea 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That scumbag gets the power of creating, modifying, and repealing the legislation that you are forced to abide by.

[-] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago

Forced, exactly. State haters don't like to be forced.

[-] disguy_ovahea 5 points 2 weeks ago

So you believe you’re above the law too? Good luck with that.

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