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"Just to meet business-as-usual trends, 115% more copper must be mined in the next 30 years than has been mined historically until now," the study said.

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[–] Sanctus 64 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Its almost like the answer isn't some whimsical butler just for you, but fucking public transportation. Build fucking trains.

[–] njordomir 24 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Agreed. I love trains and it frustrates me to see them bungling the implementation. When they try, they always seem to make the same mistakes trying to bring it to my area.

To see meaningful ridership out here, the train needs to go fast enough to negate the penalty you get at the other end when you have to go from the station to your destination. They wanted to run them at ~55-70mph here, with a few stops between major cities, to parallel a freeway that is 65-75mph. Drive 1 hour (1:10 with parking) or spend 2 hours going to the station, riding a slow train, then going from the station to where you are going? I hate cars, but as someone who only gets a handful of hours to myself after sleep, work, and chores, I'm going to save my time and pick the car. If they ever build the train, as it is planned right now, it'll just be another commuter train that's only really used at rush hour when the roads are jammed rather than an all day all week car replacement solution that I can ride to Sunday night dinner at a friends house as easily as a 6am meeting.

/un-requested rant

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Your math doesn't even add up but, obviously we should also have more time off lmao

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

the best way to improve public transportation is if the public uses it….

[–] FireRetardant 2 points 5 months ago

It has to be competitive with cars for people to switch. Everyone cares about their wallet and their time. Cheaper transit that is faster than cars will attract more ridership.

[–] entumetnary 1 points 4 months ago

Trams are the future!

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe build ebikes instead of EVs? Then you'd need about 1/50th to 1/100th the copper.

[–] entumetnary 1 points 4 months ago

Don't forget tramlines.

[–] andrewth09 15 points 5 months ago

Metal Theft sector booming. Meth stocks are up.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They'll start mining landfill for metals and probably plastic soon enough. Air it out, wash it, get the metal and plastic, don't worry about that other in the air/water, that's a future poor person's problem.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

metals, sure. The problem with plastics is that plastic is not plastic, it's a plethora of different chemical structures. Very difficult to recycle some of them, even if sorted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"Recycling the plastic" in my tip-mine dystopia fantasy would be what they called burning plastic to fire the smelt to get the metals out. They're gonna burn rubbish for metal and market it as a good thing, someone will get paid a lot of money to think of a word like reclamation.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So it's time to a coup d'etat on Chile AGAIN!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Or more child slavery, maybe? Sorry, that is for batteries.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I always find it ironic that people with the most money are always the hungriest for it. Their entire lives revolve around it, and they are willing to pay any other price for it. They will kill ecosystems, pollute everything and even destroy societies for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Power does not corrupt, it only attracts the corrupted

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No one uses pennies anymore… Just sayin’.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

If I'm reading this chart correctly, each penny is only 2.5% copper.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

This can be improved if all vehicles moved to a full 48v architecture. Substantially less copper that way.

[–] quinkin 3 points 5 months ago

Deploy the crackheads!