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The original was posted on /r/ukrainianconflict by /u/Watcher_2023 on 2024-05-16 14:49:01+00:00.

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[–] Badeendje 34 points 1 month ago

"We have not encouraged or enabled strikes outside of Ukraine, but ultimately Ukraine has to make decisions for itself about how it's going to conduct this war," said Blinken, opening up the possibility of Western military materiel being used against Russian units located beyond Ukraine's borders.

This is actually pretty big. Kiev driving 2 himars to the north one with gmlrs and one atacms variant and the Belgorod region is pretty much f-ed

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Dumb that it is ruled out to begin with

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

No it didn’t.

Hints aren’t policy.

Clickbait

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I think when a senior official like this says something, it's pretty close to being policy. It's kind of like a "soft launch" of the policy. He wouldn't have said it if the US didn't plan on going through with it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Maybe I’m jaded and wrong, but I will believe it when I see it

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

You certainly have every right to being skeptical of the US pulling its finger out by this point in the war given the pace they've been going so far.

[–] MataVatnik 6 points 1 month ago
[–] trolololol 2 points 1 month ago

Plausible deniability

[–] shalafi 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When the United States Secretary of State says words like these, they have real meaning. This is not you and I shooting the bull over policy, this is the highest level of diplomacy in America speaking.

You may not have heard it, but Russia got the message loud and clear.

[–] logi 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Russia got the message loud and clear.

Too bad. They should have heard from Mr ATACMS himself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I believe this was Mr. ATACMS publicist informing them of his arrival

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Coming from the guy who represents the US on the world stage it means something.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

It would if they announced it, but hey, maybe I’m wrong.

I would like to be wrong about these things more often