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[-] LifeLikeLady 23 points 1 month ago

Is Nio a Chinese brand?

Because the new 100% tariff will make this car $60k

[-] Diplomjodler3 8 points 1 month ago

Well, you wouldn't want to US car companies to have actual competition would you? Won't anybody think of the poor shareholders?

[-] pdxfed 7 points 1 month ago

It's ok, it'll come with a 1-year limited warranty

[-] postmateDumbass 7 points 1 month ago

Ill wait and get a pack of 10 on Temu for $5

[-] Wogi 2 points 1 month ago

1 year, 25000 foot warranty.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

The engine power comparison is suspiciously absent from the article.

[-] Delta_V 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The claims about price are sus too, for all the EVs mentioned. The actual price of Tesla's cheapest Model 3 starts around $45k, so the author's claim that you can buy a Model Y for $34k throws the veracity of the entire article into question.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That’s China prices. Chinese government artificially holds their currency low, hence everything is cheaper there when expressed in USD.

[-] Diplomjodler3 6 points 1 month ago

It's definitely going to be a lot slower. But the Chinese market doesn't care much about things like that.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It probably depends on a segment you are trying to address Tesla always positioned itself as high performance car.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Why is it so difficult for these manufacturers to sell a $5000 to $10000 4-door hatchback?

Sure the margins might be razor thin but the market in NA is essentially untapped. (I am certain I am wrong here because silly Americans want big cars so there's actually no market. But let's assume we can somehow convince enough people to buy one...)

Even I, a non-industry outsider can see the great potential for a very modern petrol/EV hybrid and compact city car thats loaded with smart tech (still offline). Imagine all the cool stuff we can do with it like color themes and modern LED based lighting and good features like physical buttons and a bangin' sound system. Not to mention we can have top notch safety features and not sacrifice mileage since it will be a small car.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Late 1980's saw the introduction of a cheap small car called the Yugo, $3999 for the base model. Dive into how it did and why. Now consider that with inflation, $3999 is about $10,000. Even the Smart Car retail was last around $24,000 and I think a basic EV would have more cost built into it that those.

I agree that cars, EV or otherwise, could be made and sold at lower prices with the basic safety and features if it wasn't a profit driven industry, but your price point isn't realistic. I also think we really don't need more cars even if they are small, dependency on personal vehicles is part of why we have problems now.

[-] aubertlone 8 points 1 month ago

I don't know that a $10,000 hatchback electric would be profitable in the US.

Just my two cents

[-] rdyoung 11 points 1 month ago

Not with the cost of the battery being more than that. We will probably see some 10k evs in the resale market eventually but I'm not sure we will ever see 10k or even sub 15k in the new vehicle market.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ive seen high mileage leafs and bolts come down to that range. They may be theoretically due for battery replacement, but its a bit of a wild west about when that's actually required, so probably still a lot of utility at that price.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

That's why I think we should go with a petrol or a hybrid car. Mileage would be so good that it will tide over the gap until we figure out how to make batteries economically viable.

[-] rdyoung 1 points 4 weeks ago

Tell us you don't understand economics without telling us.

Also, tell us you haven't been paying attention to evs without telling us.

There are a couple of new chemistries that should be in vehicles soon that are from more abundant and lower cost ingredients.

Just like everything else over the centuries, the first iterations of a brand new technology are going to be a lot more expensive than some of us would like. Over time with enough demand and development that price will fall as it's already doing with ev batteries just not fast enough for some of you whiners.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Hell, I’d be happy with a subcompact crossover EV for less than 30k.

[-] AA5B 1 points 3 weeks ago

There are proposals to replan communities around golf carts for neighborhood transportation

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago

I know a Trojan Horse when I see one. So does Joe Biden. China can take their "ET phone home" electric cars and shove them up their ass.

this post was submitted on 16 May 2024
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