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Israel: ‘Investigate what?’ A response to mass graves being found in Gaza. (www.politico.com)

submitted 5 months ago by GrymEdm to c/world

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When NatSec Daily asked Israel Defense Forces spokesperson NADAV SHOSHANI whether Israel plans on investigating, he at first waived off the question, calling the reports “fake news.”

Asked if that means Israel won’t investigate the mass grave reports, Shoshani said: “Investigate what?” He then added that Israel has already looked into the matter and found that there was no wrongdoing. “We gave answers. We don’t bury people in mass graves. Not something we do.”

Shoshani didn’t provide details of that investigation or who Israel provided answers to specifically.

“The Israelis have told us privately what they’ve said publicly, that they totally reject the allegations,” a U.S. official told NatSec Daily, granted anonymity to detail private conversations. “We aren’t in a position to validate that, and would like a thorough and transparent investigation into the reports.”

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[–] GrymEdm 45 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Here is a video from a press briefing in which US State Department Spokesperson Vedant Patel is asked about the reasoning of getting Israel to investigate accusations made against Israel. I don't know the channel and I'm not a fan of the quotation marks used in the subtitles, but I think the video is still a valuable, factual record of the questions and response and people can draw their own conclusions.

In my opinion, this feels like asking murder suspects to do the police work for their own court case.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

With everybody looking up their own ass, and you looking for yourself, I'd put my money on nobody finds nothing.

[–] nogooduser 13 points 5 months ago

Generally, countries do initially investigate themselves because it’s actually one branch of management investigating someone who reports to them.

If this were the UK and there were allegations of war crimes against army personnel, I would expect the army to do that investigation. Then I would expect the government to investigate the army and if that is not satisfactory then you’d expect external bodies to investigate further.

The problem here is that the crimes have the backing of the higher ups so steps one and two aren’t about whether a crime had been committed but about how they deny the accusations?

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago

We intervened in Serbia/Kosovo for much less than this.

[–] Zehzin 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We would never bury people in mass graves we let the kids we kill rot in the open air

[–] SlopppyEngineer 13 points 5 months ago

That's some top grade negationism they've got there.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

We don't bury people in mass graves. Only the mercenaries and the prisoners are doing that.

[–] dlatch 10 points 5 months ago

You're not burying people if you don't consider them people taps head

[–] Mrkawfee 8 points 5 months ago

Given how quickly and easily US politicians kowtow to Israel this isn't a big surprise.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Given the conditions the hospitals had been operating under and for how long, it is entirely plausible the mass graves were the hospitals trying to get the dead out of the building to make room for more wounded patients.

Thing is there have also been reports of bodies with their hands bound in them so there definitely seems to be something to investigate FFS.