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[–] ABCDE 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I feel very torn over this. On one hand, I completely understand the desire not to die in a fucking war. I certainly wouldn't want to either.

On the other, who if not the ukrainians can defend their homeland? The west can't even actively interfere without risking potential global repercussions neither side wants 💣🍄. I also think it is unfair that the men who could afford to leave get a pass, while the rest has to risk their lives.

[–] Beetschnapps 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Having your country torn in half over a foreign invasion is awful.

That’s worse…

[–] ABCDE 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I would be useless in a war, being forced to fight in something for a country you left for whatever reason seems unfair. I left my own in 2010 and rarely return, and have lived the vast majority of my adult life as a taxpayer in other countries.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

slava ukraini?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

“A man of conscription age went abroad, showed his state that he does not care about its survival, and then comes and wants to receive services from this state. It does not work this way. Our country is at war,” Kuleba said.

I think this sums it up well.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As a counterpoint, if you've emigrated and sought asylum in a foreign country is it fair to be denied access to criminal records and other bureauatic documents necessary to continue your life? One of my coworkers is Ukrainian and to pursue immigration they've had to go back and forth getting documentation that Canada requires for both residency and a work permit - to my knowledge they're fine since they're so far along in the process but a new asylum seeker may find themselves unable to provide this documentation.

War is messy business and not wanting to put your life on the line is understandable - after all nobody in this comment section is barred from volunteering to fight, or at least provide logistical support, in Ukraine if they're so motivated. Most of us are happy to financially support the war but wouldn't want to risk our lives.