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Ukraine pressures military age men abroad by suspending their consular services | CNN (edition.cnn.com)

submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/world

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I was born in America and now am a Canadian citizen. I'm pretty doubtful I'd die for either country unless their motives closely aligned with my personal value. I do regret that you've been downvoted so severely, your general opinion and offer of self-sacrifice is certainly something I've genuinely seen in people before and I think it comes from a noble ideal.

The problem, IMO, is that this policy is far too broad and punishing. I much prefer the US approach here which has always been to offer ever increasing carrots - I'm less comfortable using the stick to increase service manpower.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Welcome to the lemmy rage of downvoting just to downvote.

The US wasn’t always carrots. Draft dodging was taken pretty seriously in the past. Most people don’t realize we use to draft on a regular basis even when we were not at war. That’s how a lot of young men learned their job trade.

I get why prior avoided the Vietnam war. In my youth I would gave went. Now that I’m 50 I would have questioned the war heavily.

[–] ABCDE 5 points 6 months ago

You called people unreliable citizens for... Not wanting to die in a war created by those who will never serve in it. I don't want to fight nor die for arbitrary borders on the whim of whoever is in charge. Killing someone because you were forced to is disgusting.