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A lemmy community dedicated to the sport of lockpicking. Information about our belt system can be found at https://lpubelts.com.

#Rules

Rule 1 - Possibly Illegal or Inappropriate

We do not facilitate illegal or inappropriate activities, which includes picking locks that are not owned by you. Also, be sure that you are familiar with any legal issues for your state or country.

Rule 2 - Lock Not Owned or In Use

Though asking for assistance in regards to how to open a lock is permitted and encouraged, the lock must not be in use. Any submission looking for assistance in opening a lock that is implied to be, or is visibly in use (eg. a deadbolt still attached to a door, or a padlock with anything secured by a closed shackle) will be locked or deleted. Posting about picking locks or having picked locks in use is also not allowed even if they are your own.

Rule of thumb, lock is "in use" if installed.

Rule 3 - No Emergency Services

We do not provide emergency assistance for opening locks. These violations also generally violate our no "in use" locks rule.

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Hate speech, bigotry, and personal attacks are not allowed.

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Definition:

Astroturfing is the practice of masking the sponsors of a message or organization to make it appear as though it originates from and is supported by grassroots participants. It is a practice intended to give the statements or organizations credibility by withholding information about the source's financial connection.

Rule 6 - Off Topic

Posts must stay on topic. Off topic content will be removed at our discretion.

Off topic includes posts asking for lock recommendations, evidence of a lock being picked, and anything not having to do directly with locksport.

Rule 7 - No Stock Photos on Picking Advice Threads

No stock photos on picking advice threads in an attempt to circumvent Rule 2.

Rule 8 - No posts about broken tools or equipment

As some users have demonstrated an inability to discuss this in a productive way, posts about broken tools or equipment will be removed.

This is primarily to address posts commenting on the quality of products (or lack there of) contributing to their breaking.

Rule 9 - No low effort posts / Memes

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[–] SirSamuel 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Locksmith here.

On the design and engineering side this is very cool. A neat and only mildly hazardous setup.

But it's a solution looking for a problem. I can't think of any major use-cases for this kind of tool. There are some very edge-case applications. Like i need to get a key for my bike lock to a friend for the weekend but the local lock shop that can make dimple keys is closed for the weekend and I need to keep my copy of the bike lock because of reasons and… where was I?

My point is there's no legitimate reason I can think of to need to duplicate a temporary key in this way. Why would a person be so prepared that they have a pocket cast for keys but not have any extra keys?

However, I can think of a number of reasons why someone would want to be able to make a rogue copy of a key without the originator knowing. None of them are good. This would also be a handy way to make a copy of a highly restricted key blank, something that usually needs a signature and an identity card to duplicate. But those systems exist in order to maintain key and lock security. And with LPL being as popular as he is, this brings increased awareness to a method that I'd wager relatively few people were aware of before.

I doubt LPL will catch any real trouble for this, but it's not good. Teaching people how to pick locks, hell, even selling lock picks, is a real "meh" type of thing. Unless they're faced with a crappy cheap lock, most people will have to spend at least a few minutes working at picking a lock. If that lock is on a house, that's a few minutes they can't afford to spend lurking on a doorstep. But this? Making it easy to cast stealth keys? To me that's in the same troublesome realm as GPS tracking apps and smoke detector cameras. It'll mostly benefit those up to something screwy.

Although I guess if someone wears a decoder ring, writes with invisible ink, and keeps throwing stars hidden on their person, this will be the coolest thing since sliced cyphers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This kind of tool is popular for red teaming. Look at Deviant Ollam's videos.

However, I think that this product kind of fails to do its job in the given scenario. You need to fully disassemble the package to access the polymer clay. If you only have the key for a few seconds at most, you won't have time to take it apart and then put the key in the mold.

[–] ezures 2 points 7 months ago

The whole kit is for keeping it together while traveling, as you only need the smal clay holder while doing the key copying, after that you can return the key and finish it off-site.

[–] satanmat 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Want.

I have 0 need. But 100% wants

[–] kamenlady 4 points 7 months ago

C O V E R T INSTRUMENT

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Pretty sure I saw something like this on reruns of the original Mission Impossible.

1st IMF agent distracts target, acquires key briefly, drops to 2nd agent who takes impression in a putty-lined cigarette case then palms it back while 3rd agent casts replica needed for a later step. Etc etc

Anyway now you too can be an IMF agent. Just remember, should you be caught or killed, the secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions.