this post was submitted on 13 Jul 2023
171 points (94.3% liked)

Linux

48035 readers
818 users here now

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

Rules

Related Communities

Community icon by Alpár-Etele Méder, licensed under CC BY 3.0

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
171
Why did no one mention this to me? (lemmyfi.com)
submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
50 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

I recently discovered ventoy and it's so useful. Don't have to flash isos anymore and can have a whole iso library. So useful.

top 47 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 122 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Next time you feel the need to tell everyone how useful something is it might be good to include what it actually does so others do not have to google it themselves.

https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html

Ventoy is an open source tool to create bootable USB drive for ISO/WIM/IMG/VHD(x)/EFI files. With ventoy, you don't need to format the disk over and over, you just need to copy the ISO/WIM/IMG/VHD(x)/EFI files to the USB drive and boot them directly. You can copy many files at a time and ventoy will give you a boot menu to select them (screenshot). You can also browse ISO/WIM/IMG/VHD(x)/EFI files in local disks and boot them. x86 Legacy BIOS, IA32 UEFI, x86_64 UEFI, ARM64 UEFI and MIPS64EL UEFI are supported in the same way. Most types of OS supported (Windows/WinPE/Linux/ChromeOS/Unix/VMware/Xen...)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

From the description sounds similar to ultimate boot cd or Hiren's boot cd

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (5 children)

If you now find out about iventoy 🙊

Never need a USB Stick anymore 😁

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Worth pointing out that while ventoy is open source, iventoy is not. Might be important to some people.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Code is on Github You can download the source there

[–] dbrand666 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"The open source part of iVentoy" is on GitHub. Perhaps it's not completely open?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Honestly I don´t know, I only found it in Github. If this is the complete source or only a part of it 🤷

[–] bev 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They're using GPL in that repo. Is that only partially?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Honestly I don´t know, I only found it in Github. If this is the complete source or only a part of it 🤷

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any ideaa why I can't reach their website?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No idea, it works for me

iventoy.com

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Weird.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It should look like this

iventoy

Tried a different browser?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes I installed Firefox and that lets me to go that webpage. How weird, everything else works normally on Brave expect that iventoy-page. I'm confused.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Weird 🤔

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Wild. That's very useful.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Wow that looks very cool! Thanks for sharing!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That site gives me sketchy vibes. Lol maybe because one of the nav items is just named "Document"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's probably an issue of English not being the first language, or of translation. It's obviously a link to Documentation, which is a pretty safe assumption when you see a nav item named Document. You could have confirmed this yourself by simply following the link.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You're right, I'm being judgemental about the English stuff... I think Im just especially suspicious of software that is written by people who clearly have the skills to pwn my machine when the software has access to ring0 and is used to boot and install entire oses. It's a malware gold mine. Even if the project is completely on the level, it's a high value target for adding malware because of the level of control you get over a machine (just like grub or syslinux of course, I'm mainly thinking about iventoy for that point). Plus as an American I'm definitely automatically more suspicious of software from China :/ not great but it's true.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Well, now you know. That's the reason I joined so many communities related to FOSS and Linux to get to know what cooking :)

[–] Raphael 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sometimes it breaks.

Source: used Ventoy.

Also check your hidden directories, you delete ISOs and they stay there. Could just be Nautilus or Dolphin though.

[–] NoXPhasma 4 points 1 year ago

I've never had that issue that deleted ISOs would stay on the USB, not sure how you've managed to achieve that. Maybe you didn't actually delete the files but put them to the recycle bin?

[–] di5ciple 8 points 1 year ago

It’s great software! I’ve only had a couple ISOs that it didn’t allow me to install on bare metal.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I like having a few isos on Ventoy for live booting from random PCs for troubleshooting. Very convenient being able to have multiple architectures, DEs, versions of distros to boot from on one drive.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What's so useful having about an iso library? Isn't it just hoarding of outdated images very quickly? What's even the use case?

I am very curious, because I don't see it. You usually don't install so many different machines in any timeframe where it might be useful. For recovery you just pick one and you really don't need it often either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

When I did supoort I would usually have a number of cds for different tasks. Ubcd, winpe, knoppix , a specialized winpe to restore from synology backups etc.

Some of the modern tools don’t require it. Backups are easier than ever etc.

Ventoy isn’t a new concept. I have a usb drive with a bunch of isos. Just don’t have much use. Because I’ll burn an iso when I need to with Rufus.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You can thin out the obsolete ISOs and have well-used tools like DBAN, a partition editor, Clonezilla, etc. Make some of the ISOs live distributions and you have a way to repair a failed installation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Being able to repair your or other people's system. Also, you can store things other than isos, so your device doesn't lose much utility, it uses a vfat partition.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Handy if you want to try out several distros and don't want to have to go back and reflash every time because you can't find the rest of your goddamned flash drives (guess what I spent last night doing)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I ended up with several blank dvds, i had no idea what i would to use them. Then i randomly decided to burn iso images to them for when i distro hop. Any older version i just threw out and replaced with newer version.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I spent an hour last night adding new distros to my Ventoy drive. It's so much easier than anything else I've tried :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any chances you will use them?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

They're for me to test. I've got an SSD in a USB3.2 enclosure, so the live ISOs run fast enough that there's no noticeable difference to an installation on my main PC.

I've been using Xubuntu on my server for years, and Mint on my laptop for the last few years, and have been trying to switch to Mint on my PC, so I thought it's about time to try some other distros before I fully commit.

I've got all the main distros, so will be distro hopping for a while to see how I get on, and if any of them jump out at me. I've always used Debian based distros, so I can see me sticking with one, but I've added the others to see if they've changed much in the last 20 years, and if I like the way they do things :)

[–] Mishaye 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's very useful, but occasionally I'm not able to install some distro using ventoy and have to give it its own dedicated USB stick. Most works fine though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like which? Just curious just in case I come across those.

[–] Voytrekk 3 points 1 year ago

I had issues with ChimeraOS. Its install process is different though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I had the same thought and then didn't use it once, virtualization for the win.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Just because almost nobody need to have an iso library.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The sketch factor on this software is over 9000. I would never run it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why do you say that? The website is a little ugly in parts (the colored text bulleted list near the bottom) but it doesn't look "sketch" at all.

And if you can get past some poorly designed home page for a project, they publish the source with supposedly 101 contributors.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's open source?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is well established, if niche, software. I think your sketchometer needs calibration.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'll take it in for a tune up :P

load more comments
view more: next ›