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"Why would you pick Ukraine? Why not extend NATO to Russia and make it an anti-China alliance?" the GOP congressman said.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Matt Gaetz would have prevented World War II by simply inviting Hitler to be a part of the Allies' team.

[–] daellat 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the anti-china Russia vs the obviously pro-china Ukraine, how could we have not seen this ourselves

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Time for America's newest game show! Are they a bought Russian asset, or are they just stupid? Stay tuned to find out!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they reveal the correct answer at the end of each episode I’d totally watch that

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You'll just get bored after ep3 because it's always the same answer

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago
[–] mr_sparkle 19 points 1 year ago

He also prefers children to adults.

[–] joeyjojojrshabadoo 16 points 1 year ago

Matt the pedophile?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For a guy who is on the US House Armed Services Committee, he sure as hell understands surprisingly little about World War II and the Cold War. Russia has expansion interest since after World War II. In fact, that's how a lot of Soviet Russia was formed. The allies bombed the fuck out the nations, the nations were destitute, broken down countries are really easy to just sweep in and take over. The thing as we all know about that last part is that, it's easy to topple leadership in a country, it's mighty difficult to maintain your grasp on the nation cough Iraq cough.

NATO aims to combine a military strength to act as a deterrent towards expansion into member states, which is why a lot of Europe is in NATO. The only thing guiding NATO is the fourteen articles of the North Atlantic Treaty, outside of that, nations are free to govern themselves. This is in opposition to how Russia was going about adding Ukraine, Moldova, and so on to their collective group.

NATO in very loose terms is a different way of doing a USSR, if that helps Matt Gatez to understand "WHY" we can't just:

extend NATO to Russia and make it an anti-China alliance?

Russia isn't interested in upholding the means by which nations govern. It's like asking the San Francisco 49ers why they won't invite the Boston Red Soxs to come play a game. They aren't doing things that have enough similarities to not have a ton of friction on the collaborative and still call it "football" or "baseball" as we know it. We can totally invent something completely different, but per the definition of things being what they claim to be: Something completely different is in fact completely different than NATO currently be, and thus, we would just invent something different (oh say like a G and some number after it) that has less friction to facilitate interchange in that regard.

But even then when we try something different and invite Russia, they still just have to go edgelord and fuck their membership up. So we literally tried to take Chad to get ice cream at McDonald's as a way to see if they're ready to go to an actual sit down place, AND Chad just couldn't help but to take a shit in the ball pit. So since Chad still is shitting in ball pits, we cannot take Chad to the sit down place with the nice dessert. That's just how it be currently.

So hopefully that's dumbed down enough for even him to understand why we "just don't go and do that thing". If Russia cannot help itself to fuck it's membership up with the G8, they sure as shit aren't going to act proper in a setting like NATO. How is this a thing that eludes this guy?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even if he understands, it doesn't suit his narrative. He is a far-right politician who says what his owners (domestic and otherwise) want to hear on the cameras. It's a coin toss whether he actually believes some of the things that he says, but largely inconsequential at the end of the day because he isn't going to argue in good faith even if someone miraculously trips over a genuine belief that he holds close to him.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

This man is deeply unserious.

[–] sgo 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would anyone vote for Matt Gaetz instead of someone with brains? It’s a mystery.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

His deep-red district is in panhandle Florida, which has a reputation for inbreeding in the United States and is close to Alabama both culturally and physically. Evidently they like his abhorrent behavior.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Floridians call it Florabama for a reason. Stealing an old joke from my Iowan family, if that part of the Florida panhandle was given to Alabama, both states average IQs would go up.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Russia was offered a spot in NATO in the 90's. They declined.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

This is idiotic in too many ways to count

[–] theyresocool 5 points 1 year ago

Well yea Florida is in bed with every criminal imaginable. 56 different white supremacy groups in your state makes it obvious how engrained in white supremacy and corruption and drug/human trade they are down there.

The entire swamp contains poison water.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Not sure how to react in a given situation? Easy! Just do the opposite of what Matt Gaetz would do!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Someone should probably ask him why he thinks NATO was formed in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

A terrible idea from Matt here.

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