this post was submitted on 10 Apr 2024
110 points (91.7% liked)

Asklemmy

44672 readers
1112 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy πŸ”

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_[email protected]~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Hey guys, what are your thoughts on the existence of extraterrestrial life and the potential involvement of governments in concealing or studying such entities.

(page 3) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] GCanuck 1 points 10 months ago

As a metaphysical solipsist, I haven’t decided yet.

[–] Resol 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Growing up in a devout Muslim society, I was made to believe that aliens don't exist.

But I simply thought that this couldn't really be possible since there's at least a few other planets that have signs of life, surely there's a civilization in there, even if it's as smart as the animals on earth.

[–] Linkerbaan 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What planet has signs of life?

[–] Resol 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

This YouTube short lists one.

I should welcome your downvotes if you're somehow not convinced enough, or if you simply hate YouTube Shorts like I do.

[–] Linkerbaan 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It says "oceans of water could exist there"

I understand the 3d animations look really cool and convincing to some people but there's no evidence here for any sign of life. They don't even have evidence for water... Just pure speculation.

[–] Resol 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I'm probably just very very stupid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

This YouTube short

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Yep. Not in the crazy conspiracy theorist kind of way, but considering that the universe is so small, it feels pretty hard to believe that there isn't anyone else out there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I’m sure there is intelligent life out there but if we ever cross paths is very uncertain.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I am certain that intelligent life in the universe is realively common, but that there is no real way to break or even bend the laws of physics to allow for FTL meaning that the chance of one ever enountering another is basically zero unless there are more than one species of intelligent life in a single star system.

[–] sir_pronoun 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I just read that as "Do you believe in Asians?" and at first I wondered whether that was racist, then I went like "Nooo, Asians, go!! I believe in you!! You can do it!!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

oh. like that secret asian man fellow.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I believe in the boundless depths of the self. Beyond that I'm not sure.

Understanding why and how we're even conscious entities, assuming I believe you guys even exist, is the question that still needs to be answered regardless of aliens becoming known to us.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)

I'm agnostic. If you find the statistical probability argument for the existence of aliens salient, then by the same token you should believe that our reality is a simulation. In which case, the existence of aliens once again becomes questionable; the statistical probabilities of an infinite simulated universe are outside the realm of our current knowledge.

edit: See comment below on Nick Bostrom's Simulation Hypothesis.

load more comments (8 replies)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Do I believe in them? I don't know that I'd phrase it that way, but I think they more likely than not, do exist in some form.

Do I think the governments of the world are successfully covering up some sort of pact with them? That seems much less likely, have you seen our governments? There's basically no way they could keep it a secret.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Sure. Immigrants have that can-do attitude that makes them much more likely to become entrepreneurs and small-business owners. I've worked for several.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I lean towards no, which is a minority scientific position. The Fermi paradox is strong evidence against technological aliens, and of all the evolutionary history we have immediate abiogenesis is the most weakly supported. It happened early, but there's still a 10% chance of a thing randomly happening in the first 10% of geological history (to oversimplify the math).

If it's not that, it's eukariogenesis, but that seems a bit more inevitable given how cooperative bacteria can already be. The development of technology seems inevitable once a thing by chance becomes smart and dexterous enough, and every other step along the way has happened more than once. Earth-like planets are still thought to be abundant.

Edit: Oh, and no to any conspiracy. It would be really hard to hide obvious alien life, and there's no real motive for all world governments to unanimously do so. And conspiracies don't exist, because we're too disorganised to keep a huge secret for long.

load more comments
view more: β€Ή prev next β€Ί