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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Should police officers who fatally shot a mentally ill man in crisis have their names shielded from the public?

That's the question facing Ontario's Superior Court of Justice amid a lawsuit by the family of Ejaz Choudry, a father of four with schizophrenia, shot and killed by police west of Toronto in June 2020 after his family called a non-emergency line for help.

Lawyers for the five Peel Regional Police officers involved in the death of the 62-year-old — including one who fired two bullets into Choudry's chest — say publishing their names could put them and their families at risk of physical violence.

Lawyers for the family say there is no credible risk to the officers and that a publication ban would infringe on the public's right to know the identities of the officers entrusted with the powers that ended with Choudry's death and the media's ability to report openly on the case.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

Maybe they need to have some fear of physical violence to keep them from doing horrible things?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Anyone who kills anyone should be named.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Are they going to withhold my name if I go to court? Nope.

If cops arrest me for something I didn't do, and I go to court for it, and my reputation and life are ruined even though I'm acquitted, are they going to give one shit? Nope.

So it's hard to imagine why they wouldn't get the full consequences of interacting with the justice system exactly like all the folks they put there.

[–] drmeanfeel 2 points 6 months ago

Yet it'll be some dude who gets pulled over for a broken tail light he can't afford to fix who gets front page in a tabloid mugshot magazine