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This is a response. I guess it's something you can do. But it doesn't seem like it's going to help much - it will have so many false positives cause kids, but not really be accessible in an emergency.

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[–] macarthur_park 49 points 1 year ago (4 children)

A summary of ideas commonly proposed by Republican politicians in response to school shootings:

  1. Harden schools against intruders by locking doors and installing bullet proof glass

  2. Reduce the number of entrances and exits to further harden schools against external attackers

  3. Install metal detectors to prevent students or visitors from bringing guns onto school property undetected

  4. Eliminate backpacks/ require clear backpacks to prevent students from concealed carrying weapons

  5. Arm teachers so they can kill school shooters

  6. Hire more armed peace officers/school police to respond more quickly to school shooters

  7. Require panic buttons to more quickly alert police to the presence of a school shooter

Notice that all of these ideas are reactive, and that none of these proposed solutions extend beyond the bounds of school property. It is assumed that there are people with guns who will try to kill schoolchildren, and they aren’t going to even try to solve that problem. They just take the existence of school shooters for granted, as a though it’s an innate part of society or a naturally occurring phenomenon like earthquakes.

That position would be a lot more defensible if the US wasn’t an outlier among developed nations for gun violence, and in particular school shootings.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"No way to prevent this from happening" says the only country in the world where this happens regularly

[–] macarthur_park 5 points 1 year ago

I was very tempted to end my post with a link to the most recent version of that classic onion article

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It seriously feels like elsewhere in the developed world, a school shooting is a great tragedy, and in the US it's just another Monday.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Because it is just another Monday. They proclaim, "thoughts and prayers," then go right back to owning the Libs by boycotting everything they love, while voting against their own best interests. Children are nothing more than sacrificial pawns to them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Because none of them want to solve the problem, until it's their kids getting shot up. Like "thoughts and prayers" it's a way to tell the victims to get fucked without being on record telling them to get fucked.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'm a teacher and a gun owner. I will tell off any administrator who tells me that I'll be issued a firearm for my classroom and that part of my job is to eliminate an intruder.

Ironically, the last district I taught at specifically told us to think about ourselves first and get to safety. We were told to run, even if that meant leaving the kids behind.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why? so the police can get there and stand around staring at the punisher logos on their phones?

i'm not against this, i guess, but it's just... less than the bare minimum.

[–] Animoscity 4 points 1 year ago

If only there was some type of way this could be resolved. Maybe some type of regulations or laws. Who am I kidding that's just crazy talk

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

That's great and all, but presupposes that whoever’s on the other end of that panic button will actually respond and do so effectively or in time. Uvalde and Parkland both had cops make it on site in a reasonable amount of time, but they were basically useless in both cases.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

When you don't want to actually solve a problem, but you want to look like you care.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plot Twist: The panic button alerts the nearest police station to stay the fuck away from the school, cuz they might get shot there!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It also triggers a tweet asking for thoughts and prayers. Everyone talks about how useless it is when people send their thoughts and prayers after a school shooting. This way, we'll get thoughts and prayers during the shootings!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It also auto-updates the Onion article about school shootings automatically to the current date.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

If they put as much effort into gun violence as they do banning drag shows and the like they might actually do something worthwhile.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I guess they'll be able to say,"See! We care about the issue!" Without taking one meaningful step. It just gives deplorables an out to vote Republican.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess it's better than the "guns for teachers" bullshit, but fuck... Surely we can do better

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I do genuinely hope no teacher ever goes postal with a gun issued due to that rule, but I do wonder what the reaction would be to a tragedy like that - a new rule to issue guns to all students when they enter the school so that they can defend themselves? The mind boggles...

[–] DevCat 9 points 1 year ago

How many videos will we see of kids filming their friends hitting the button just for likes?

[–] baascus 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like seems like a feel good measure. I guess it’s happening anyway so hopefully it helps.

[–] ActuallyASeal 1 points 1 year ago

I'm wonder how much this would actually reduce response times. Panic button in a room full of teenagers will lead to a ton of false alarms. Police departments will pobably still need to be called by someone before they roll the entire department towards a school.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

And it’ll play a message saying “Thank you for your service, We hope you make it. Thoughts and prayers!!”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It feels terrible to joke about this but...

I think they should incentivize the tech industry to leverage the power of machine learning for utilizing a cybersecurity mesh based on metaverse training data to control AR-capable machine gun turrets powered by AI.

That should be more effective.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I mean replacing the physical schools with schools in a virtual world would certainly fix the school shooting problem.

[–] guyman 0 points 1 year ago

Whew. Save the wannabe-comedy for the old site.

You're not as funny as you think you are <3

[–] DABDA 0 points 1 year ago

ED(ucation)-209 says, "You now have 5 seconds to comply!"

[–] Raphael 1 points 1 year ago

Or just ban guns.

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