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its over we are now at the same level of the us fuck taht shit fuck that gov . only good fock suck XXXX

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[–] SteefLem 74 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So whats the fucking point of GDPR then.

[–] ShroOmeric 12 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

This doesn't make sense to me given it sounds like there was a pending case with facebook about privacy concerns. Someone has to bring that up in protest....

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What does this really change for EU citizens?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It seems to mean that companies can get around all your privacy protections, such as GDPR, simply by hosting their servers in the USA. Then they can mine your data all they like and you have no recourse. I guess the right people were paid/threatened, because this undermines a lot of the EU's work on data protection over the past several years.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

I guess the right people were paid/threatened

either that or this was the playbook from the beginning for more political theater. Probably got some nice votes and exposure to the people "fighting" it.

[–] LightDelaBlue 22 points 2 years ago

stealing our data. like in the US sadly . its like a bypass for google and facebook if i get it corectly.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

As a EU (plus UK) citizen, you have a bunch of pretty neat rights over your data due to GDPR, and unlike most other laws, violating GDPR can really hurt the perpetrator (since they get fined as % of revenue, not % of profit)

GDPR also allows the transfer of data to other countries, but only if the receiving country has privacy protection laws equivalent to GDPR, which excludes pretty much anywhere outside the EU/Eurozone

So, they basically get to ignore GDPR altogether, with no consequences, if this isn't shut down by the EU right fucking now

The results include, but are not limited to:

-Storing cookies in your computer without your explicit consent (user tracking)

-Targetted ads that you can't opt out of

-Foreign actors having access to your data

-No way to request the deletion of your data, alongside the erosion of most rights about them

-probably many more

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Some folks got a big fat check it seems, they call it lobbying.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

And the world is once again worse off.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Can the US just please stop making the world worse?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Don’t be so negative, it is not a full loss as you all say.

The European Court of Justice already killed the previous 2 adequacy decisions in the Schrems cases, and it may happen in few years from now again.

Apart from that, though the US are clearly not adequate for data protection following GDPR standards, they have somehow to comply with GDPR. Businesses in the US are now applying 2-standards to EU citizens and the rest of the world, in order to comply with our data protection framework.

Until yesterday, all companies and public organisations using US services were not compliant with the law, because there was no legal basis available for data transfers to the US. Nevertheless we were all using their services. It’s best to have in place an adequacy decision which is not perfect (and probably not compliant) than nothing and living in a far west.

[–] LightDelaBlue 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i kinda freak out tbh . mostly what my country do actualy (france) its..... not good at alls....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

In France you have good practices too, qwant, ovh to name a couple

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

that the United States ensures an adequate level of protection—comparable to that of the European Union

I guess this makes sense, with the new French spying measures, they're now basically the same

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

It's apparently not much different than the last two tries. Expect a cancelation or revokation.

The US did not change that only US citizens have data/privacy rights. That can't confirm to EU rights.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

NOYB have a good write up about how they came to the agreement by using this simple trick, the EU and US have different definitions of the word "proportionate" but the US's definition is undisclosed...

https://noyb.eu/en/european-commission-gives-eu-us-data-transfers-third-round-cjeu

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