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I want to send this to my sister, whose children are clearly autistic (but she doesn't know yet?). Thing is, I won't, because she will just take them to a chiropractor. 🫠
I wish we could report parents practicing pseudoscience on their children to CPS.
Dear God, if only...
She was telling me about how her toddler son fell off the back steps and bashed his head on the sidewalk. Then she said that "he didn't cry was moving his jaw weird" so she RUSHED HIM TO THE CHIROPRACTOR!
I held back the urge to scream as I loudly and incredulously asked "Why the chiropractor??? You should have gone to the hospital????" but only got an "oh he was fine, tee hee!"
She's putting her poor kids in danger with her horseshit beliefs, and I can't do anything about it.
Fucking infuriating.
I just avoid ever interacting with her now.
I do believe that not bringing an injured child to the emergency room is legally considered child neglect in Canada and in the US. You can still anonymously tip off CPS investigators about her.
As long as those kids are clothed & fed, CPS will do nothing.
But I might put in a tip just to say that I've done something.
Also, I know she's doing other weird shit. But my family tells me to mind my own business and "that's just how her family chooses to live their lives."
Gave my SIL a warning when I saw she was letting her kid have a Tiktok account at 10 years old. "It's just an app that posts dance videos!" Wow surprise when she caught her posting VERY inappropriate videos of herself later and talking to MUCH older men.
I fucking hate how my siblings choose to raise their kids.
My hope is that they'll find out something else you didn't know about and get the children removed from her. If she's being medically negligent, what else is she doing to them?
I’ve softened my stance a little bit on chiropracting insomuch as I can see it being ok if a) it’s used as an additional therapy along the lines of massage and b) it doesn’t involve “adjustment” of the spine. (But then why not just go to a LMT or seek physical therapy…)
I know what you’re saying, though- there are those who eschew real medical treatment in favor of going all in on chiropractors and I agree that is so dangerous, especially for kids, especially kids dealing with intricate diagnoses like autism
IMO psuedoscience needs to be shut down HARD. If there's legitimate use of something and the pseudoscience mythologizes it to do more than that even more so as people who get it for one of the things it's legit for could more easily be duped into believing the bullsh*t and expose themselves to potential harm or just degrade the common understanding of reality.
If alternative non science based therapy- for example acupuncture or cupping makes you feel good, why not? As long as you’re not spending your last dollar on it, or treating it like primary healthcare, I don’t think alternative stuff needs to get shut down.
In the US at least, I think it’s a symptom of the state of healthcare. Among other things, insurance is an expensive bureaucracy, medication is over prescribed, scientific literacy is low… it’s not shocking that people see this pseudoscience as a viable alternative
I suffer under the American dystopia. I'm familiar with how bad it is here. I like to burn incense on occasion for no other reason than enjoyment of the scent created. I'm fine with doing things for the sake of 'feels good'. What I'm opposed to is the prevalence of falsehoods or indeterminable notions held to be true and from them actively harmful decisions being made. I don't see a mechanism to effectively prevent that category of poor decisions from being made without addressing the root cause.
Edit for Clarity: Was just thinking about my comment and felt I should add to clarify that I in no way mean to say taking the nonscientific services away from anyone. I mean to say shut down the advocacy for unsupported, and occasionally quite dangerous, assertions that these can do anything more than what they demonstrably do. My ire is directed entirely at advocates and practitioners who act on or spread misinformation.
Yes there are good purposes for chiropracty, but it's been so polluted by chiropractors who claim to solve any ailment and end up causing more harm that it's fair to have a knee jerk reaction at the practice as a whole.
Because I got yelled at for shaking the shitty house floorboards when I heel walked, next question.
I used to think I like walking on the balls of my feet because it provided more shock absorption than heels. The heels hit too hard, and it feels wrong tho the military did train that out of me.
That's a feeling can in some be a sort of stimming.
There isn't one answer. It's depending on the person.
https://psychcentral.com/autism/walking-on-tiptoes-autism#autism-and-toe-walking
It’s believed that toe walking may be directly or indirectly due to a dysfunctional vestibular system — a condition commonly seen in autism.
The vestibular system, which involves the inner ear and central nervous system (CNS), is what gives your body a sense of:
balance
position
spatial orientation
If the system isn’t working correctly, you can have difficulties with coordination and balance.
so if im understanding correctly, autism can cause a messed up sense of ballance and spacial orientation, which in turn can lead to toe walking
Not quite, it can although be your formulation. Autists have more frequently as co-occurence a differently functioning vestibular system.
But, it can be stimming as well. The sensation of toe walking can help resynch the brain.
I often have to catch myself from assuming people I see toe-walking are autistic. I went to physical therapy as a teen (ironically, I went for heel-walking) and so many kids there just came because they toe-walked.
Havent done it since I was young. But I just remember it being fun, and feeling faster than normal walking
I remember my mother trying to fix my posture, my grandparents telling me that I had short tendons that needed to be fixed, etc. Turns out it was normal all this time.
I suppose we'd have to see if the tendency splits down the line of hypersensory or hyposensory. To me, a hypersensory autistic that does toe walk, I always figured I did it because your heel hitting the ground is both too loud and a bit of a jarring sensation physically too. I only know a handful of other Autistic people well enough to know if they are hyper or hypo and if they toe walk, but my limited data does line up that way. Would be interested to hear of any counter data/anecdotes.
I'm 30 years old and i still toe walk. It just feels comfy.
It's just ✨extra suspension ✨
This is really eye-opening. So much of my childhood involved neck problems and my mom telling me to stop walking on my toes.
..What
I've always done this. This is a thing?
Well damn this is me, and I'm diagnosed ASD. Had no idea the two are related.