this post was submitted on 08 Mar 2024
375 points (98.2% liked)

Games

32907 readers
1669 users here now

Welcome to the largest gaming community on Lemmy! Discussion for all kinds of games. Video games, tabletop games, card games etc.

Weekly Threads:

What Are You Playing?

The Weekly Discussion Topic

Rules:

  1. Submissions have to be related to games

  2. No bigotry or harassment, be civil

  3. No excessive self-promotion

  4. Stay on-topic; no memes, funny videos, giveaways, reposts, or low-effort posts

  5. Mark Spoilers and NSFW

  6. No linking to piracy

More information about the community rules can be found here.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
375
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by Iceblade02 to c/games
 

It actually states that you may transfer your rights to the game to another person, which is, like... wow.

I'm not sure if I've ever seen this in another steam-connected game.

I still dislike the wording around the fact that the TOS can be changed at any time, and refusing revokes your right to playing it (without any compensation), but that's pretty much industry standard (unfortunately). This however, stood out to me.

P.S: If any of y'all have some extraordinary TOS's for other games that stand out in good (or bad) way feel free to share, it'd be interesting to know if there are others!

top 16 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 97 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Any games that restrict sale of your property to other users are okay to be pirated imo.

[–] Iceblade02 105 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I did pirate the game, and then it was so utterly awesome that I went and bought it shortly after they patched in the epilogues.

One of the reasons I have the steam achievement for finishing the game, but not the one for finishing the tutorial xD

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

This is how you battle piracy

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

imho, that's how you find the some of the best games games.

Find the ones that people pirate, then enjoy so much that they go out of their way to get an official copy.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think this was one of the few EULAs I actually read though, mostly to see if I was going to sell my soul to them as part of it.

Did not, but was not disappointed, their lawyers definitely got to have some fun.

[–] joneskind 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I wonder if there’s a way to transfer the game from my Steam account to my GOG account.

[–] redeven 55 points 9 months ago (3 children)

There is none in the way of a transfer. Neither Steam nor GOG will give you a copy of the game in exchange for another platform's copy, nor give you a copy on a competing platform in exchange for theirs.

provided the technical protections measures used by the Game support such transfer

This boils down to if your method of ownership supports it, you can do it. Neither Steam nor GOG support it. A physical disk copy would support it, for instance, so you'd be entirely allowed to transfer ownership of your physical disk copy of the game.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Excellent breakdown. This almost definitely only applies to the Deluxe Edition that is a physical copy.

Steam explicitly doesn't let you give your account away or sell it, likely because they service so many different companies, that it would be impossible to handle the licensing changeover for all your games. It's still frustrating, but it also makes a little sense, considering each game is often owned by a series of different companies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I'll only buy digital games if I get them at garbage bin sale prices. If I can't sell it when I'm done, I'll only pay an amount small enough that I wouldn't go through the trouble of selling it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

With GOG, you could theoretically download the offline installer, give that to someone else and then ask GOG support to remove BG3 from your account, and be fully abiding with the EULA conditions.

[–] redeven 1 points 9 months ago

But that wouldn't give you a Steam copy, which is the scenario I was describing, along with the inverse mentioned in the original comment. There is no method supported by GOG or Steam to transfer a game to a competing platform.

Also in your case, the receiver would only have that one offline installer, the game wouldn't be in their GOG library, and they wouldn't get future updates.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Steam does support it. A long time back, I was still new to Steam, and activated a key on a second account I'd created. I opened a support case, told them I'd activated it on the wrong account, and asked them to transfer it. They did.

[–] redeven 1 points 9 months ago

That's a transfer within the platform, very different from the scenarios I described. There is no method supported by GOG or Steam to transfer a game to a competing platform.

You can't open a support case and tell them "sorry I actually wanted this game on GOG, can you transfer it to my account there?". At best you could ask for a refund, obviously if you've played the game enough you wouldn't even be able to ask for that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

I wish I could suggest campaigning for GOG Connect to support it, but sadly, it looks like they shut it down.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

This strikes me as though the TOS existing is one of the (seemingly few) things out of their control when using the ip, but they went and made it as pro-consumer as they could.