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Hello! I'm in the process of slowly de-googling my life and taking my privacy more seriously.

I currently use Google Authenticator for 2fa at the moment.

I am currently dreading swapping those to Aegis, which requires a password every time I want to use it (that's very inconvenient, to be honest) while with Google's I can just open the app and get the necessary code right away; no password required.

Should I just stop being lazy, suck it up, and make the switch? I know I'm being a bit of a baby.

Edit: Okay, apparently I can use my fingerprint scanner instead, which is a LOT better, so I'll stop being a lazy shit and do the swap tomorrow. Cheers!

Final Edit: I made the switch to Aegis. Already made a backup, and I have Biometrics setup. Ty everyone!

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If your phone has biometrics, you can set that up, much quicker than typing password each time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Ohhhh snap you're right! Thankfully my phone has a fingerprint reader. Never used it but it looks like I finally have an excuse to!

Guess I just need to stop being lazy now. 😅

[–] jacktherippah 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can use biometrics instead of a password. Also, Google Authenticator not having a password requirement is a massive security risk to me. A 2FA app, just like a password manager should ABSOLUTELY be protected with passwords/biometrics.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I got biometrics turned out, ty!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can disable encryption and use Aegis without a password, just like Google authenticator.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I didn't realize that. I should do a better job at reading all the settings. Ty!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I use a self-hosted bitwarden, it keeps both my passwords and generates TOTP authentication codes

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is the only way, saving tons of credentials centralised isn't the way to go, if you're able to do it yourself and mantain it.

Not everybody should selfhost

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

instructions unclear, everyone should be @selfhosted

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using an URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'v been trying to self host bitwarden but I keep running into error after error. Mostly with nginx 😑

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use bitwarden_rs with docker-compose, behind nginx. I can share my config if anyone is interested.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I self host on my Synology and getting the reverse proxy with the webhook setup properly was such a PITA it took me giving up for a couple months and coming back to it to finally get set up. Turns out I was looking in the wrong place for security certs the whole time 🤦

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Seems badtio keep both forms of auth in the same place.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Everyone has already mentioned the biometrics, but I think even without that you still should have to suck it up if you want to improve your security.

Also, I think it's worth the hassle of changing to Aegis since you can make backups of your vault pretty easily, something which Google authenticator doesn't provide.
The only option in that app is cloud sync which IIRC isn't encrypted in any way, so your keys are being sent to you-don't-no-where via you-don't-know-how in plain text.
Aegis gives you the option to sync your vault with an encrypted file which you can then import into other Aegis install (I don't know if it has the option to sync an unencrypted version).

[–] gobbling871 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember losing Google Authenticator data when I had to format my phone. This was years back and didn't have too many accounts setup. With Aegis I have an offline encrypted backup of all my 2FA codes so this is no longer a possibility. Before Aegis I was tempted to use Authy before I had to wait 24hrs to gain my access back after I reset my phone.

2FA on Android has always sucked (lazily created; app data CANNOT constitute and/or subsitute device trust). I wish I had got on to Aegis earlier.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've already made my first backup with Aegis. =)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Apparently you can use biometrics instead of a password each time you require access. Not sure if that still seems like a bother or not, I personally do not mind.

𝐄𝐝𝐢𝐭: Some one else already beat me to this answer, haha.

[–] peregus 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But I don't reccomend it. I may be too paranoid, but recover a fingerprint (physically, non from the OS) from a lost/stolen phone is pretty easy and this is why I never suggest to use fingerprints to login to banks app and authenticate transactions. At least use a 6 digit pin for Aegis.

[–] randombullet 1 points 1 year ago

I use a yubi key to do my static passwords for otp apps like this.

I think it's 38 characters long.

I wish ageis uses keys or webauth but that requires online functionality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ah yea just noticed that; my phone has a fingerprint reader. Didn't even occur to me to use it because I never have. 😂

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can also check out 2FAS, which recently got open-sourced. It comes with browser plugins to autofill 2FA pushed from the phone on request. Makes it a lot more convenient if you need another reason to switch.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I use aegis as the otp for bitwarden and keepassxc. Currently trying to migrate bitwarden and just use keepassxc while syncing the db to my nextcloud and backup onedrive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ente's auth app is a good option too.

https://github.com/ente-io/auth

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