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[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Bit of a red herring to put GDPR in the title when the article is about Lemmy missing key admin functions, and only tangentially how this runs afoul of GDPR.

TL;DR Lemmy hasn’t implemented image deletion for users or admins, so don’t upload your government ID.

[–] woelkchen 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Bit of a red herring to put GDPR in the title when the article is about Lemmy missing key admin functions, and only tangentially how this runs afoul of GDPR.

I haven't read the GDPR, yet, but it's still a serious issue – GDPR or not. Imagine if Instagram did that. Everybody would seriously go bonkers and rightfully so.

System administrators often aren't software developers. Lemmy users need to trust Lemmy admins and Lemmy admins need to trust Lemmy developers. Maybe not letting users delete any uploaded media isn't outright illegal, maybe it is. I'm in the camp of it being definitively not cool.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Inflicting lawyers on an open source project is a great way to drive off the developers.

If I hear Lemmy has a GDPR problem I assume it’s lawyer BS only European instance admins have to worry about.

If I hear Lemmy has bugs in basic CRUD functionality, that’s a real issue.

[–] woelkchen 5 points 8 months ago

If I hear Lemmy has bugs in basic CRUD functionality, that’s a real issue.

Coincidentally I saw bug reports by that person and another person earlier that day (before the blog post was published), including one opened months ago with absolutely no reaction at all of even acknowledging that this is even an issue: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3973

I've heard from time to time that Lemmy developers can be difficult to work with (I never worked with them, so I make it clear that this is hearsay) but I have the suspicion that there is some merit to that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Aren't the key admin functions missing leading to GDPR non compliance?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I found it interesting how the maintainers reacted to these issues.

Would you mind if we set some of your priorities also? You're asking us to do free labor for you, that you're unwilling to do yourself. Do not put ultimatums and demands on people making FOSS, or I won't hesitate to block you from these repos.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4433#issuecomment-1939275302

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Just another guy who thinks he’s Gods gift to open source because he found a bug, and thinks the volunteer developers fail to show proper gratitude by not dropping everything to work on your pet bug.

[–] Darrell_Winfield 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Interestingly, he was silent for 3 weeks after being assigned to the bug, then came back to post his blog post and nothing else. I've seen this blog post a few times today, looks like his self promoting strategy is working.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I agree commenting that post under every issue was a dick move.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, this is a bug that could be the end of lemmy. As soon as one malicious actor sues even a few instance admins, other will get scared and shut down their instances. As the reporter points out, this isn’t just a shiny feature that’s missing. Instance admins lack the ability to follow data protection requirements that their users have a right to. It’s a lawsuit waiting to happen.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This post made my curious about the instance he's on, monero.town, and the first post I see is Covid antivax shit

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Yikes. Played it for shits and giggles and it leads off with saying the vaccines or even being around people who took the vaccine causes you to emit a Bluetooth MAC address lmfao.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Its been a few hours, did you find it yet?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Not quite, no. I know what it isn't at least.

I'll keep going - I'm sure the article's author is someone who genuinely uploaded some confidential info and then became really involved with privacy/GDPR etc, and not someone who was always been really involved with privacy/GDPR issues and now has a story to fit.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (14 children)

Not that I hold the Lemmy devs in particular high regard, but unless OP is cutting them a check every month enough to pay their full time salaries, I really don't think that he should be expecting anything just because he faced an issue that was difficult, but (a) not specific to the developers but the admins of the instance and (b) ultimately solvable.

I also think that this is not a reason to justify a whole fork or even a fully adversarial position. Yeah, tooling for moderation and instance management is lacking, but these can be built on top of the existing codebase. If my fediverser tool does that for user authentication and account management, it could also be extended for content moderation and provide granular access for staff.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Do uploaded images get federated? If they do, this is a pointless losing battle

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[–] dumpsterlid 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I would actually consider using normal reddit a nightmare, lemmy like the rest of the fediverse softwares mostly just feels like a community theater play put on by people who really passionately care about what they are making but have zero budget and so long as you go into not expecting a blockbuster movie it is awesome.

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