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Github dislikes email "aliases" so much that they will shadow ban your otherwise normal activities for months, and once flagged, support will request not only a "valid" email domain but also that you remove the "alias" email from the account completely.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I had the same issue with my Anonaddy alias, I just made an alias using my domain name and works fine now. It's unfortunate that so many project are on shithub.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fuck Microsoft for buying GitHub. As expected they have made good into garbage.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

GitHub was proprietary, venture-capital, Ruby sludge before Microsoft. They’d either way aim to be bought or be the next Microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Yeah all the email addresses on my domain name are just aliases. Dont tell github

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I gave them an generic "alias" through a more mainstream service than silomails, we'll see if that pacifies them.

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[–] hperrin 28 points 8 months ago (1 children)

GitHub is owned by Microsoft and Microsoft also hates email aliases. May I recommend Port87. Microsoft and GitHub both accept the tagged addresses you use with Port87.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Looking at this Web page I end up on a wait list... Is there more somewhere?

[–] hperrin 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I’ll send you an invite right now. The waitlist is temporary, but necessary right now. I need to know metrics for autoscaling capacity.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Thanks that's very nice of you! Let me know if I have to DM you my email or something else! I see that you're behind that project, nice to have you there

[–] hperrin 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you were on the waitlist, I’ve sent you an invite. :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, I wasn't because I weren't sure on the best way to go, but I just joined now. Feel free to approve when you have time! Cheers

[–] hperrin 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You should have an invite now. :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Million thanks mate! I can confirm this! Cheers!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

fuck github. use a different git site, there are plenty!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (9 children)

Github is unfortunately the premier platform for collaborating with others to build FOSS. Until alternative forges support federation, any other forge is usually a dead end.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Huh, federated Git sounds nice.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Federated Git has been a thing ever since git was conceived:

git send-email
[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (5 children)

They mean like I want to be able to open an issue on your instance using an account on my instance. Forjero is working in this

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] coolkicks 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

GitHub has 28 million public repos

Gitlab is has less than an order of magnitude as many Under a million in 2020, and nearly 80% without FOSS license.

Is it everyone’s favorite, or best, or most feature rich. Nah. Is it where the FOSS projects are. Yes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is this why Freedesktop, GNOME, KDE, Haskell, & others self-host their GitLab community editions? These must not be the real FOSS projects.

[–] coolkicks 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sure, self-hosting is a great option for very large projects, but a random python library to help with an analytics workflow isn’t going to self-host. Those projects, along with 27,999,990 others have chosen GitHub, often times explicitly to reduce the barrier to contribution.

Also, all of those examples are built on thousands of other FOSS projects, 99% of which aren’t self-hosting. This is the same as arguing only Amazon is a bookseller and ignoring the thousands of independent book publishers creating the books Amazon is selling.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

This isn’t to say every project should self-host, but that they could self-host. And if you don’t want to self-host, you can join groups like Notabug, or a server hosted by a foundation like Codeberg, or the privately-held SourceHut, or even the open-core GitLab with its free tier (tho publicly-traded, most of the source is open & one can run the community edition if they wish). To assume if not self-hosted GitLab CE, then one must use a closed-source, US-based, publicly-traded, megacorporate, social media + code forge platform that’s trying to monopolize the developer tooling space is a false dichotomy.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (4 children)

What do you mean by email aliases?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Basically another email address that forwards everything to your main email.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (5 children)

So a redirect instead of alias? E-mail alias is the address+alias@... thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I thought that was a gmail specific thing.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

How would they even detect that? Blacklist common alias providers?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I dont think so. I get my self hosted aliases banned. They must read the dkim/spf/dmarc or other types of headers against a base of mainstream email providers

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I use simplelogin on github. Works fine

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Mines ok. But then I use my own domain.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Discord locks my account everytime I join a server

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Likely that they don't "trust" your email provider, but there's a lot of strange A/B testing going on behind the scenes of that data harvester.

Setting up a dedicated spare gmail or outlook account solves that issue.

Registering a "cell number" helps too, but it's hard finding a service that offers "free texting numbers" that isn't set up in a way that they can see that it's just one of those services. Wish I remembered what finally worked for me.

Lastly, if you're using a modified Discord app or desktop install, be sparing with the non-standard features. That can flag you sometimes too.

For most servers though, I find it easiest to just access them in browser as a not signed in guest.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think Google Voice still gives out a free phone number as long as you tie it to your actual phone number. I used it for Craigslist all the time years ago to avoid giving out my actual number

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

A lot of services like PayPal will block known Google Voice numbers. Screw all these service for even asking. I can do 2FA without a phone so you must be trying to collect more data than you should.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Are you using 2FA ? With some services (Not Discord but others) I found out that when 2FA is enabled I will not have to suffer endless amount of CAPTCHAs and what not.

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