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[–] AncientFutureNow 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

266 incidents out of 99,000,000 vaccinated people, and remember folks, correlation is not causation.

[–] Ghostalmedia 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The study does seem to show that risk likely does up, but it’s still rare AF.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X24001270?via%3Dihub

Also, you know what also likely increases the risk of some of these conditions? Getting COVID 19.

[–] stoly 2 points 11 months ago

There is likely a similar incident of poor outcomes by people who simply leave the house and go to the doctor

[–] Ghostalmedia 21 points 11 months ago

Shit click bate headline. But saying vaccine risk is low doesn’t generate buzz.

Risk is very veeeeery low. Overall, your risk of getting seriously ill goes way down with vaccination.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X24001270?via%3Dihub

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

small increases

rare events

small proportion

small risk

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Expected rates were obtained by participating sites using pre-COVID-19 vaccination healthcare data stratified by age and sex (Faksova et al.).

The original paper seems to be far too ineffective a methodology.

That is not an effective control; at least take the same health data analysis from the unvaccinated population. Given that even folks with the vaccine can catch less severe cases, you really need to root out COVID-19 as the cause of those complications.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Finds links to health conditions: like being alive and not dying from COVID?

[–] jordanlund 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Pre-covid, I got sick following open heart surgery and ended up with a case of pericarditis.

It felt like I was being stabbed right in the goddamned heart.

Doc explained it can happen as a result of any infection and it would get better on its own. Had me taking ibuprofen for it.

So you're saying simulating an infection via vaccine can also cause it? (shocked pikachu)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They're talking about myocarditis, not pericarditis. I don't know how bad the latter is, but I've heard that the former is a health emergency. It can apparently cause arrhythmia, tachycardia or even cardiac arrest in worst cases.

Having said that, the news headline does sound a bit alarmist. Nobody ever claimed that vaccines are absolutely safe. It's always a tradeoff between the risks associated with the vaccines vs risks associated with the diseases it's trying to prevent. Side effects like myocarditis are handled on a case by case basis.

I took the vaccines and never contracted covid-19. I didn't suffer any side effects either (apart from the expected fever) - likely the same for the huge majority of vaccine takers. Had I known about these risks then, I would have still opted for the vaccine. The effects of long-covid are that horrifying. Unfortunately, articles like these are giving ammunition to antivaxxers.

It's also worth noting that there's a higher chance of getting myocarditis from covid than from its vaccine. In fact, we lost a friend to myocarditis and septicemia caused by covid. His blood had shown signs of a bacteria that's normally found in the lungs. We later learned that this was due to the severe lung tissue damage caused by covid.

[–] jordanlund 2 points 11 months ago

Same here and as a patient with a pre-existing heart condition, if there was a significant risk from the vaccine, well, I'd already be dead. :)