It's like Brexit was a bad idea all along. If only someone had mentioned this at the time we could have avoided all this mess!
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I know this is probably sarcasm but. It would have been nice. Cameron was more pro remain than Corbyn, so the remain campaigning sucked. The news never talked about the merits of the EU. Basically nobody pro remain got any screentime! Let us not forget if it's on a bus it must be true!
The only people who said brexit was a bad idea to me were friends and family. If you wanted to know what the effects were likely to be you had to work for it, which Brits kind of suck at doing.
To be fair, a lot of people said it was a terrible idea but ot got dismissed as "Project Fear" when it was really Project Underestimation.
With two Leave campaigns the unofficial one could pretty much say what they liked (not that the official one was a bastion of truth) and they clearly had some very deep pockets funding them, and we've never got to the bottom of what was happening there.
they clearly had some very deep pockets funding them
Deep Russian pockets. The more I read about Aaron Banks' mysterious fundraising trips to Moscow, the worse it sounds. He went there in 2015 to raise capital for a technically-insolvent company, came back with his company flush with unexplained cash and then suddenly made an £8 million personal donation to the Leave campaign. All the while, we know separating Britain from Europe was an explicit goal of Putin's foreign policy.
The lack of any serious investigation by the security services into Russia's role in Brexit - in contrast to what they did in the US after the 2016 election - looks more and more questionable with every day that passes in Ukraine. Putin meddled with our politics for his own foreign policy ends and the likes of Johnson, Rees-Mogg and Farage were happy to go along with it.
Yep, the Russians clearly saw it as a way up soften up Europe by creating division and chaos (job done).
I also presume there was cash coming in from American billionaires purely because just about every iffy astroturf campaign group seems to be partly or wholly funded by them in an attempt to drive the UK to the right and make it a low regulation zone where they can do what they like (although Liz Truss proved this approach was unworkable, at least in the short term).
they clearly had some very deep pockets funding them
Deep Russian pockets. The more I read about Aaron Banks' mysterious fundraising trips to Moscow, the worse it sounds. He went there in 2015 to raise capital for a technically-insolvent company, came back with his company flush with unexplained cash and then suddenly made an £8 million personal donation to the Leave campaign. All the while, we know separating Britain from Europe was an explicit goal of Putin's foreign policy.
The lack of any serious investigation by the security services into Russia's role in Brexit - in contrast to what they did in the US after the 2016 election - looks more and more questionable with every day that passes in Ukraine. Putin meddled with our politics for his own foreign policy ends and the likes of Johnson, Rees-Mogg and Farage were happy to go along with it.
They must really hate that people were using free movement to retire abroad. I thought the local remain group was going to be full of students but when I went to a meeting it was dominated by older people who had had their retirement plans messed up.
They all believed it wouldn’t affect them because “EU countries couldn’t do without them”. Then the leopard came along and ate their faces.
The best about is that most "expats" voted leave. They basically cut off the branch they were sitting on.
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