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This article includes first wind tunnel and sim photos from Andretti, as well as details on how their hiring and work on the car is going

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[–] MorganCS 21 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I really hope they get in. F1 needs a good injection of unpredictability. However, it would be hilarious for them to have built a complete car and F1 says no.

[–] SatouKazuma 5 points 10 months ago

Pretty sure Formula 1 would be a defendant in an anti-trust if they said no. I'm not an attorney, but I remember reading an article about Formula 1 setting themselves up to be sued.

[–] MorganCS 1 points 9 months ago

Well, apparently They decided not to let them in Not as funny as I thought. We need a new team

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

They have approval from the FIA though right, so I think they could enter.... but wouldn't get paid.

Thats an unlikely situation, but would be hilarious, as FOM wouldn't have permission to show them on TV either...

It's one way of forcing an entry though!

(Disclaimer: I have no idea what I'm talking about)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

I guess this could be a pricey gamble if they don’t get the go ahead. But, if they do, it means they will have been working on this car for way longer than any of the other teams! It probably has a decent chance to be competitive.

[–] damirK 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So how does this work with budgets, wind tunnel time, and regulations? Does the FIA send people ahead of entry to monitor things?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I suspect it's like boxers and mma fighters that they are not bound to any rules or doping testing when they are "retired". They get juiced up wait a few months until they test clean and unretire.

Once they are an F1 team is when they start being bound to F1 rules.

[–] mortalic 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What are the chances one of the existing teams folds in the next year or two?

[–] bhmnscmm 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Never say never, but there's virtually no chance of that happening.

I mean, who are the likely suspects? All the teams now have large corporate backing. Haas and Alpine are the only two even remotely close to being in the realm of possibility (IMO). And I very much doubt either would leave at this point.

[–] essteeyou 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I could see Gene Haas pulling out of F1.

[–] bhmnscmm 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

At some point, maybe. But not in the next year. If he were going to sell, I think he would have done it by now.

He was essentially singlehandedly bankrolling the whole team until Moneygram showed up. If he didn't sell when he was the sole sponsor, why would he now that he's just started sharing the cost? Apparently he even passed up an Andretti offer at the time.

[–] essteeyou 5 points 10 months ago

I guess we'll see how the team does without Steiner.

[–] SatouKazuma 4 points 10 months ago

Racing Bulls could be forced to exit, apparently. I'm not sure why now, but there's been a lot of controversy surrounding Red Bull's ownership of a second team.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Curiously, the picture that Andretti have provided of that model in the wind tunnel.. looks very close to how the RB car looked at the end of last season.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

If you were building your first car wouldn't you copy a dominant Newey beast?