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The [email protected] community on this instance thrived for a while and reached almost 19k subscribers very rapidly and it was very active.

Recently the Reddit mods of r/Android created another community with a few hundred members on another different instance where they are mods and that one was then astroturfed on c/android by a person seemingly unrelated to that community's mods.

Apparently some discussions then took place between owners of both communities and the mods of [email protected] community then unilaterally closed the community, thus, according to their own sticky notice, succumbing to the flawed reasoning that the Reddit mods are "more experienced" and therefore the rightful representatives of an Android community.

I find this behavior sad and it just shouldn't be allowed here for two reasons:

  • this sets the precedent for more Reddit mods to just come and claim "ownership" of communities by bullying existing ones into closing;
  • does not respect the almost 19k subscribers who didn't even have a say in this, and especially those who had already expressed that they joined [email protected] because they did NOT want to be moderated by the old Reddit mods.

[email protected] needs to be reopened now and the mods removed since they expressed that they no longer want to moderate a community on lemmy.world.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

What are you gonna do, ban them if they leave?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I wonder if one day Lemmy supports migration of communities whether this would become a problem. Do the mod own the subscriber list and can move it from one server to another without subscriber consent? Assuming the community on the original server will be deleted after migration, perhaps the migration process can include each subscriber given a (one-click) choice to move or unsubscribe. In addition there is the question whether mods are free to hand over a community to new mods if they want to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

So… what do we do? Do we tell mods that they’re required to keep their community open for a certain period of time? Do we have them sign a legally binding contract? Do we fine them if they break said contract? Do we take donations to pay for the legal team we’ll require?

Or, do we just accept the fact that sometimes people will make decisions that we don’t agree with?

Yes, I’m being a smartass, but the question remains: how would we enforce this?

[–] Pika 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

this would be easy to enforce at least at the instance level, have a rule against it, if it happens anyway admin level can either nuke the community via the purge option or can reassign a new team for it.

The argument here isn't forcing the mods to keep the community open, the argument is if they are closing it indefinitely they should be deleting the community or reassigning a new team on it.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think they should be able to close it, for, say, one or three month. When they close, they stop being moderators, and after this period (one or three month) the name is up for grabs by anyone.

[–] TheSpookiestUser 1 points 1 year ago

This seems fair and akin to what Reddit did, the difference being I inherently put more trust in this instance's admins to handle the job than I ever put in Reddit.

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