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[–] echoplex21 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope all the raving from DC Heads about the Flash was due to this being the reboot they needed so audiences weren’t confused with a new Superman etc.

To be honest it wasn’t a bad movie personally. There are definitely worse movies out there. I think this most likely failed as even both hardcore and casual fans know they’re rebooting the universe and Ezra’s issues were far more public than DC realized. I don’t think DC had much of a choice as all the shooting was already completed before all the crazy shit he did came out.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ezra’s issues were far more public than DC realized

Well... now that sick puppy's career is finally well and truly over. Just like it should have been two years ago.

At this point, a thorough psychological evaluation as part of the casting process might be starting to look like a good idea to producers of the big budget tentpole films and franchises.

[–] echoplex21 6 points 1 year ago

What’s surprising is that they usually do have to do something similar. More at risk actors will have studios paying more for insurance. Ex. Why RDJ with Iron Man was a big risk.

[–] aquarisces 37 points 1 year ago

Was the flopping motion due to Ezra choking and tackling it to the ground?

[–] i_had_name 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They give the guy who can’t help but physically assault people his own movie and copy the theme marvel has been using and wonder why it flops…

[–] echoplex21 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To be fair to DC , they were already wrapped filming when the crazy shit came out (iirc). At this point they should’ve just pulled a Batgirl with the movie.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When it came out, not when it happened. They most likely knew well ahead of the public, and still went ahead.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't they literally say that "people will just forget what he did lol"?
YUP LOL:
https://variety.com/2023/film/news/the-flash-crew-people-forget-ezra-miller-alleged-abuse-1235602481/

I know there are more reasons than Ezra that this flopped but personally I'm not burned out on superhero stuff. A lot of people are saying "people are burned out on superheroes" but if that's true why is Spider-Man still #1?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

People mostly just like to bitch. It's not even like superhero movies are the only thing being made. But they are pretty ubiquitous. I guess people just see so many cross-promoted super-hero movie trailer every time they go see a movie that they get fatigue from the idea of them. Not necessarily the movies themselves.

I was listening to a recent Game Grumps episode where Arin basically went on a tirade about how superhero movies are so bland, and how they don't build the characters and the world... but then turns around and praises some of the more recent movies (Black Panther and GotG I think). It seems people are tired of the hype surround them. Which, honestly, I completely understand.

[–] CitizenKong 7 points 1 year ago

Ironically, the Batgirl movie would have likely made a profit, since it only cost 90 million and had Brandan Fraser right after he got his Oscar. But I guess the tax write-off was more important.

[–] DYDRL 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What theme did they copy from Marvel? If you’re talking about multiverse stuff, that’s been a concept in comics for ages and DC introduced it into comics first. Marvel bringing it to the movie screen first doesn’t give them ownership of the idea.

[–] i_had_name 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The timing is a little suspicious. Not a marvel fan btw.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I kinda agree. At the same time, multiverse crap is even more prevalent at DC than at Marvel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but their Elseworlds stuff is way better than most of Marvels stuff of that nature.

If DC really pushes that kind of thing for their new start, I can see them starting to dominate. I think standalone stories with interesting twists will draw in a larger audience, and they wouldn't have near as much of that "superhero fatigue" that a lot of people complain about.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Marvel has a guy like that too, and he was going to be in all of their movies until it came out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Have they actually dropped him yet? I just heard he had charges and then all news just kind of disappeared.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

You can't tell me that Black Adam was better than The Flash.

Black Adam was just a montage of The Rock flexing and looking stern. The plot was non-existent. The whole movie, I just wanted to turn it off and do something better with my time, but I was curious to see if there were going to be any redeemable scenes. I regret waiting till the end to find out there were not.

The Flash was a genuinely enjoyable popcorn flick, if you were willing to overlook the unfinished CGI.

[–] echoplex21 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Flash is for all intents and purposes a better movie but it just was not as marketable as Black Adam was. The timing was better as the DC iirc wasn’t announced to be rebooted yet, Snyder fans were excited by the announcement that Henry Cavill is back, and The Rock has a much larger fan base than a troubled Ezra Miller. The Flash has to truly be one of the top CMBs for it to have had a chance the more you look back at it.

[–] feedum_sneedson 6 points 1 year ago

Continental Mallistic Bissile

[–] thermal_shock 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Loved the rock in the rundown. Here is a not looking stern and flexing scene from Be Cool

https://youtu.be/swo423cXQuE

[–] partial_accumen 4 points 1 year ago

Black Adam was just a montage of The Rock flexing and looking stern. The plot was non-existent.

I had a problem with the initial premise of Black Adam being a villain. "Intergang" was an organized crime syndicate ruthlessly controlling the city/country. Innocent people were killed because the gang's greed. Note, zero help or support from outside the city/country by more powerful people. So Black Adam appears and starts killing Intergang...and THEN the "heroes" of the Justice Society show up because Black Adam is killing people (just gang member criminals). Where the hell were the Justice Society when Intergang was oppressing the civilians?

The whole movie, I just wanted to turn it off and do something better with my time

When I saw the heroes attacking Black Adam instead of Intergang, I did what you didn't. I turned the movie off about 25 minutes in and did something else. I was curious if I missed out on a better ending, and I appreciate you sharing your experience and letting me know I didn't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok, I'm out of the loop here, that's the second time I've seen someone mentioned "unfinished" CGI. Is it actually unfinished, or does it just look that bad?

[–] echoplex21 10 points 1 year ago

At this point CGI studios are overbooked and overworked to the absolute bone in Hollywood now. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were not able to find anyone to finish it or they just didn’t have anymore time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Black Adam was just a montage of The Rock flexing and looking stern.

Isn't that just every movie The Rock has been in (for the most part)? You could go all the way back to that Doom movie and say the same thing. (That being said, imo Doom is very fun if you don't associate it with Doom lol)
Maybe I've missed some of his filmography, but he doesn't have a large amount of range.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jesus, did a chatbot write that article? The grammar was awful, damn near impossible to follow.

[–] echoplex21 17 points 1 year ago

At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if most articles are at least partially written by AI.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Howard the Duck must be really happy lately

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Is not it the best flop? I mean, they are number 1, right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] echoplex21 2 points 1 year ago

99 NFC Championship Game?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They should bury the Flash and mourn him for a time. Then they should move on and hire Sasha Calle for what ever she wants to play SuperGirl, the vengeful Kryptonian, rising from human imprisonment to bring 'Justice' to humanity. I would pay to see that all day. She was the only light in this dreadfest.