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[–] siftmama 10 points 1 year ago

Follow the spice

[–] Crack0n7uesday 10 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is quite funny that we call our empire rules based order. Athens was also known for using a lot of euphemisms.

Something about pretending that an imperial democracy is a legit thing that can exist seems to make you want to lie to yourself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What's your alternative when Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea actively seek their own colonialism?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's your alternative when Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea actively seek their own colonialism?

Why does the existence of multiple evils make you want to defend one particular evil? Why not mention our brutal, murderous or genocidal allies like Saudi or Israel?

Our empire created the problem that is iran, our invasion of iraq showed putin that empires can still destroy foreign countries with no comeuppance, our lack of imperial interests in africa gives russia room to stoke violence and war unchallenged, our antagonism to china encourages them to prop-up NK as a buffer state against our client state on the korean penisula and that same antagonism is driving china to a more belligerent position.

I'm not trying to say that everything is our fault - obviously all those countries are responsible for their fair share of vile behaviour - but our empire has actively contributed to how bad those situations are. All countries are vermin, the more powerful the greater the capacity for evil - and we're the most powerful.

Of course I don't have a step-by-step program to a better world, but it's pretty obvious that we're a big part of the problem and an alternative is needed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The point is, that rules based system - as flawed as it may be - represents a check against those countries I list currently trying to annex new lands by force.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The point is, there is no rules based order. The rules only apply to the global south, the US has explicitly stated they will bomb or invade The Netherlands if the ICC ever prosecutes a US citizen. It’s just another cynical tool of power projection.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

A virus which ends all multicellular life on this planet

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

We need this imperial order to protect us from imaginary imperial orders.

📽️

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's nothing imaginary about Russia's invasion and attempted annexation of Ukraine. Nothing imaginary about China's wish to take all of Taiwan against the wishes of the Taiwanese. Nothing imaginary about belligerent threats by North Korea against South Korea and Japan. Nothing imaginary about Iran's conduct either. North Korea and Iran ship arms to Russia in support of Ukraine's annexation. As does China trade with Russia for the same purpose.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nothing imaginary about belligerent threats by North Korea against South Korea and Japan.

The US conducts the largest invasion exercise in the world in South Korea, every single year. WTF are you talking about, calling the DPRK the aggressor? They're literally demonstrating that they can strike back if they're invaded.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You seem to have a tenuous grasp on reality.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He is so old he certainly looks like a Guild Navigator.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This avatar is a self portrait in woodcut by Erich Heckel, an artist who was declared degenerate by Nazi Germany, and whose entire catalog up to the 1940s was destroyed by Nazis. He survived and taught art after the war, when these pieces were created.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Spice extends life, but I'm not seeing the eyes of ibad here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You’re right. I can’t photoedit my way out of a paper bag 🫤

[–] NeedsMoreSpice 2 points 1 year ago