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Recommendations for a non flashlight afficionado? (slrpnk.net)
submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by [email protected] to c/flashlight
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Over Christmas, I realised that I don't actually own any torches, and whilst I have no interest in throwing myself into yet another expensive, niche hobby, I wondered if the folk here could help suggest a possible flashlight.

I'm wondering what kind of options are for a headlamp style flashlight, ideally one that can be detached from the headlamp mounting, if that's a thing. In the most ideal world, the flashlight itself would be small enough I could fit it in my everyday carry tool pouch, which is a tool pouch that's around A5 size.

I used to have a basic headlamp which had three lights on it and a button which toggled between modes so it had some variable brightness. I liked that I could tilt it up and down. I used it mostly for digging in unlit storage units, or illuminating in and around my car when unloading at night. It wouldn't need to be too bright (the brightness aspect is one of the things I find most overwhelming about fancy flashlights, because there's a lot of in-group lingo to be learned which I haven't had the brain for.

One of the worst parts about my old headlamp was that its charging adaptor was specific and it'd often go uncharged if I couldn't find the specific charger for it. I don't know how fancy flashlights(TM) are generally powered, but I don't want to get a nice gadget I never use because it's awkward to charge. Proprietary connectors are a bit of a nightmare.

My budget would be up to £100 as a maximum, and only for something that ticked all my boxes. I have no idea how reasonably my goals are here, so thank you for reading this. I'd be glad to hear any suggestions anyone has, whether they be product suggestions, or questions that might be useful for me to consider in narrowing this down. You don't need to explain your recommendations too much — I can go away and research stuff once I have a place to start, but at the moment it just feels a bit big

Thanks

Edit: I feel like I've got plenty to go on now, thank you to everyone who answered, I love y'all, wonderful nerds

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My main lights, including my EDC, are Emisar. They are among the best lights available in many different ways and they are also among the best bargains you can get. Emisar lights feature a complex "operating system" called Anduril. It is incredibly versatile. You can configure the behavior of your light in detail and use it in all kinds of ways (such as beacon and candle modes). That can be daunting for someone who just wants a basic light.

If you like tech gadgets you will probably love an Emisar light. Just be aware of what you're getting. Also, since you said you're interested in a headlamp you should probably get a DW4 instead of the D4V2.

Having said all that, let me point you to the Arbitrary List of Popular Lights. It's a great resource for people who aren't flashlight nuts but want to find a good, practical light. Start with the Medium Headlamp section and work your way up or down if those don't seem like the right size. Everything on that list is a good choice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've seen Emisar crop up a few times, and I suspect you're right that I'd probably enjoy one, and also that it's good to know what you're getting into.

I've not seen that big list before, that looks like a useful overview resource, thank you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

The DW4 is currently on sale at the Emisar website. There are an insane number of options. I'm sure you can sort through them, but let me make a few suggestions...

If you want brightness and some throw, pick the SST-20 (5000K) LEDs and stick with the standard driver. If you want long runtime and broad flood, pick the 519A with Dome (5000K) LEDs and check the box for the Boost driver.

Different people have different needs and preferences, which is why all of those options exist. You can always do some research and figure out what matters and why. I just offer them as a way to get started without diving in that deep. :-)

Best of luck!

[–] Echo5 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I like Petzl, used their stuff a lot in camping/humid conditions (aka sweaty pockets) and they haven’t let me down yet. They also have a mini USB rechargeable battery you can get instead of three AAAs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I've not heard of Petzl, I'll check them out, thanks!

[–] Zak 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

One thing the flashlight community usually strongly prefers is lights that run on standardized, field-replaceable lithium-ion rechargeable batteries. Common form-factors for these include 14500 (14x50mm; AA-sized), 18650 (18x65mm), and 21700 (you can probably guess the dimensions by now). Some lights have built-in charging for these, but they can also be charged in slot chargers like the Xtar VC2SL.

There are versions of these batteries with USB charging ports on them like these from Keeppower. Just note there are a few lights that don't fit them due to length - it's best to consult reviews (or just post here) before buying if you want to use those.

As for the headlamp itself, I really like the Skilhunt H150 with Nichia 519A LED in 4500K (or 3000K if you like the incandescent look). These have brightness levels from low enough to keep your dark adaptation to... well, likely brighter than your previous headlamp. The optional BL-110C battery has a USB-C charge port directly on the battery, while the headlamp itself has a proprietary magnetic charging pad. It can take an AA battery as a backup.

Going up in size from there, the Skilhunt H04 series, Skilhunt H300, and Armytek Wizard Pro, all with their optional Nichia LEDs are great options. Their 18650 batteries have about three times the capacity of the H150's 14500.

All of these have pocket clips and magnetic tailcaps, which makes them work well handheld lights and magnetic work lights as well as headlamps.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Thank you for this great response, it's given me a lot to think about wrt batteries. I feel like I've got a decent sense now of what good things to look out for

[–] Bach37strad 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Pick up an emisar d4v2. Amazing flashlight and tons of custom led configurations depending on your use case. The firmware it runs on has so many modes and custom config Its crazy. Click 3 times and it'll display battery voltage ffs. Only like $50ish too.

Iirc they are custom made by this dude in China so shipping does take a while, but soooo worth it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

The firmware it runs on has so many modes and custom config Its crazy.

I gotta say, as a chronic tinkerer, I can see the appeal of items like this, even if I'm trying not to fall down the rabbithole

[–] ivnts 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wurkkos FC11:

  • built in USB-C charging
  • good size for EDC
  • UI not too complicated for folks who aren't flashlight nerds
  • magnetic tailcap (ends up becoming surprisingly useful)
  • good value for money
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the rec, I'll check it out; I do love me some magnets

[–] Irons 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For the best headlamp, I recommend the Armytek Wizard C2 Pro. It's bright, efficient, and durable. There is a Nichia version which has superior light quality, but has a lower max brightness then the non-Nichia (Cree) version. While it comes with a proprietary built in magnetic charger, it uses standard 18650 sized lithium ion cells, meaning you can either buy a separate external charger or a battery with a built in USB-C port.

On the budget side, there is the Wurkkos HD15. It's less efficient and durable, but far cheaper. It has 2 different LEDs. There are models that have a throw/flood LED combo, and ones that have a white/red combo. This headlamp does have USB-C port built in and uses the same 18650 batteries.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Thanks for these options; it's useful for comparison to see what's considered to be a budget option even if I'm likely to go for something on the fancier side

[–] solrize 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm going to suggest the Nitecore HA11: http://parametrek.com/blog/ha11.html

Pros: very small and lightweight, has a red nighttime mode, runs on a standard AA cell (best used with Eneloop), doesn't go too crazy for high lumen output. Relatively cheap (20 USD retail here, no idea about UK).

Cons: no built in charger (but you can get a very small external one), UI is a little bit fiddly, red nighttime led is longer wavelength than ideal though I still use it. Body is black so it is hard to find in the dark. I stuck Countycomm glow in the dark tape all over mine and that makes it very easy to find at night.

Being able to remove a headlamp from its headband usually isn't that useful. A headlamp is generally perfectly good as a flashlight. Just hold it in your hand and don't worry about the headband.

[–] Anticorp 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Here you go! This thing is bad ass. You don't really need to know anything other than turn it on and use it. There are modes, but you don't have to use them. It does everything you mentioned. It even has a magnetic base so you can stick it to things when you remove it from the head strap. I've used it when working on my car and it was perfect.

For charging, you will need a battery charger. It takes 18350 lithium ion batteries. Just get a spare and keep it in the charger. When one goes dead then swap it with the one in the charger. You'll never have to wait to charge the thing. Chargers are cheap on Amazon, as are batteries.