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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/10882099

Thankfully I don't use any of their products, but this really pisses me off. They claim that this open source project "causes significant economic harm to their company"

This is ridiculous. It is truly ridiculous. How can something that enables the user to efficiently control their AC cause "significant economic harm"???

Consider forking the repository or mirroring it to another platform like GitLab, Codeberg or your self-hosted Git server, so the project can continue to exist and someone can maybe fork it and maintain it.

The effected repos are: https://github.com/Andre0512/hOn and https://github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn

If you don't know about Home Assistant, check it out. It's an amazing piece of open-source software, that you can run at home on your own server and use it to control your smart home devices. That way, you don't need to connect them to the manufacturer's (probably insecure) cloud. It gives you sovereignty over your smart home instead of some proprietary vendor-locked garbage. Check out their website and the Lemmy community: [email protected]

I also highly recommend Louis Rossmann's video about this: https://youtu.be/RcSnd3cyti0

He makes awesome videos in general, consider subscribing.

As Rossmann said, don't ever buy anything from such a shitty company that doesn't respect their customers. This move by Haier is nothing other than a slap in the face for everyone, who just wants to comfortably control the product they paid for. This company is actively hostile towards their paying customers. Fuck these bastards!

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This has been so common lately we need a darkweb git

[–] Dehydrated 7 points 10 months ago

I remember git.rip, it hosted some things that were banned on other Git platforms, but it got taken down by the feds

[–] CosmicTurtle 1 points 10 months ago

I'm fairly sure there is a GitHub like service run on tor.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That way, you don't need to connect them to the manufacturer's (probably insecure) cloud.

The problem is that these projects do connect to the manufacturer's cloud.

I agree that the company is handling this the wrong way, but it is possible for 3rd-party code to negatively impact the service for other users. The right way to address any legitimate issues would be to have reasonable rate limits and work with the developer to fix any concerns.

This is also why I believe in choosing devices with local control instead of those which require cloud services. For example, Louis' video mentions air conditioners. Get one that can use a wired thermostat that you control over Z-Wave or ZigBee.

[–] Heavybell 2 points 10 months ago

I was lucky enough that my Panasonic unit has a physical connector. It's meant for you to connect their own little cloud dongle, but some clever bastard on github reverse engineered the RS232-based protocol and wrote an ESPhome component to talk to the AC unit instead. All I had to do was get an ESP32 dev board, a voltage converter and the right type of connector, and solder it all together.

[–] Dehydrated 2 points 10 months ago

That doesn't make it any better. I'm guessing that it uses the shitty cloud backend because there is no way to control the AC unit directly. In that case, they should just implement a direct local API and stop bitching about "forbidden usage of their cloud services".

[–] notannpc 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

“demand that you immediately cease and desist all illegal activities”

Good news everyone, this companies TOS is not the law. That code doesn’t do anything illegal. At best they could file a frivolous lawsuit that they would surely lose if it went to any competent judge.

Of course their aim is to use the cost of a potential lawsuit to kill a perfectly legal project. I wonder if any FOSS legal funds would help take on a fight like this to stop companies from using lawsuits to kill FOSS projects.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I hope we hear from the EFF about this somewhat soon

[–] rodolfo 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm a simple man. I see Rossmann, i upvote

[–] Dehydrated 4 points 10 months ago

I like your logic

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

GitHub also has a legal defense fund for developers. GitHub lists it on their DMCA takedown page.

When GitHub processes a DMCA takedown under our circumvention technology claim review process, we will offer the repository owner a referral to receive independent legal consultation through GitHub’s Developer Defense Fund at no cost to them.

They created this fund after claims were made against a YouTube downloader from a third party. (not Google)

I don’t know if this would be an anti-circumvention claim, but it doesn’t sound like a bad idea to ask.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

GitHub also has a legal defense fund for developers. GitHub lists it on their DMCA takedown page.

When GitHub processes a DMCA takedown under our circumvention technology claim review process, we will offer the repository owner a referral to receive independent legal consultation through GitHub’s Developer Defense Fund at no cost to them.

They created this fund after claims were made against a YouTube downloader from a third party. (not Google)

I don’t know if this would be an anti-circumvention claim, but it doesn’t sound like a bad idea to ask.