Oh hey Tim Cook tweeted a video ad about the nightmare goggles today and the first thing it showed was someone using them to work while barely paying attention to making their child breakfast.
Very cool and good I love capitalism =^)
this post was submitted on 13 Jun 2023
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Oh gawd no. Please. We can stop this. For our children. No one buy it.
You need them in order to be productive enough to keep that child alive.
cool, now we won't be able to tell where our lives start and our jobs end
While I wouldn’t want to wear an AVP around people, if someone came up to me it would be nice for them to know if I’m seeing them via passthrough or if I’m completely in VR
I think its very odd that they managed to combine VR and google glass to some how come up with something even more off putting. Can't wait to see someone wearing these while driving.
It's going to be extremely stupid to drive or walk with one of this, no matter what apple marketing is saying, night time vision must suck, and peripheral vision is reduced.
But at the same time there are people playing RPGs or watching movies while driving 90mph in highway using Tesla "full self" driving (then the surviving family has to sue "he didn't know it wasn't an autonomous vehicle")
To be fair, the technology is really fascinating. Virtual objects throwing shadows on the real environment or generating a virtual face in realtime is stunning. But on a practical note, does this keep your face from getting sweaty? Can you wear glasses comfortably? Can you change light seals when they get dirty?
Nevertheless this is in effect just a glorified monitor, but will certainly cost several times more. So I really can't imagine compelling use cases. Especially since you can only use it with other apple devices.
The expensive Apple Monitor actually does not cost much more.
I'm just interested in seeing what sorts of games someone will develop for this. I imagine it'd be great.
At first, I wanted to reply "Gaming? On a Mac? Get out of here!". But I just saw that over 38k games are available for MacOS in Steam - well, TIL!
AR stuff is cool, it really is, but this will not be something you wear around other people.
Maybe in many years from now, once the technology has matured to where you can wear it as normal glasses or even contacts, but I just don't think a lot of people will want to use these except as a novelty or for specific purposes like gaming and then they will be competing against Meta which is priced much lower.
I'd still take a pair though if they were sold at a tenth of the price :)
Is there a reason you say that? I like the pass through mode on the Oculus Rift S for grabbing my water bottle and what not
It's mostly the rendered fake eyes displayed on the outside
I'm waiting for someone to make a parody of this so the outside screen displays a blurry porno
Google glassee? Hospitals
Facebook glasses? A few skaters
Cardboard? casual games for kids
Oculus? Simulators
This thing? Apple futuristic-wannbes fanboys
I just feel like VR is never really going to be a thing most people enjoy using. People have always used tools with their hands, the smartphone is just the most advanced version yet. Wearing something over your field of vision feels unnatural and unintuitive, and I don't see that ever changing. I already feel kinda uncomfortable even when I just put my hoodie up. What if someone comes at me from behind 🫣
Smartphones are kinda dumb though. As smart as they are they are a tiny screen you need to hold.
Screens monitors tvs pads whatever are just glass that information is beamed onto.
Why not just use that same tech to be that same information in front of your vision. Cut out the middle man that is the phone screen. Isn't that better ?
I'd love to have a heads up display but I don't think it has much practical applications. Can see my heart rate my maybe my speed and my location of I need directions.
This is the same revolution that were phones. People like you said the exact same thing. Be dumb to look at your phone all day. Yet here we are.
Chicken and egg. Need the hardware to start off the software. Without useful reasons for it it will die. Price point too
There's a big difference there. Before the smart phone we would use notepads. Writing things down on a little pad of paper is something we've done for 100s of years. We just swapped out the paper or booklet for a digital device.
But we are still at the very beginning of this technology. People will start using them at home because they are more suitable than phones for some activities, but as usage increases there will also be more research on the subject - so technology can advance and become less invasive -. Once usage increases and the tool becomes less invasive, I see very few barriers to them spreading outside.
Maybe they will, maybe they won't. I definitely felt similarly to you for a while, but now I'm just kinda in a phase where I'm seeing the downsides too.
I worry about the mental health of a society that spends more time on a headset than face to face with other human beings. It's already really bad just with smartphones. VR is gonna be even more problematic, people are going to literally get addicted to VR and lose track of reality and go insane. Or at least I could see that outcome as a possibility.
Sorry for the late reply.
In my comment I wrote how I think this technology might spread, but this isn't connected to the advantages and disadvantages I believe it has (rather to the advanced and disadvantages the public will perceive).
I'm quite worried about the mental health consequences too, but I don't think they'll be enough to make us stop using VR if we find it convenient. I just hope for an increase in mental health awareness, so that even if new technologies do damage people will be able to prevent and cure a part of it.
I already feel kinda uncomfortable even when I just put my hoodie up. What if someone comes at me from behind 🫣
Well, don't go walking around in dangerous neighborhoods with your overpriced headset then :D
Jokes aside, realistically speaking, the usecase is in an office or at home, somewhere where you should feel relatively safe. I get the sentiment though, even the VisionPro is still too bulky and intrusive for it to be something that you wear all the time, even when interacting with others.
Meanwhile, this already exists for steam vr: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1844610/Reality_Mixer__Mixed_Reality_for_VR_headsets/
Allowing me to see my kitty cat right next to me on the couch while me head is inside a virtual cinema (bigscreen).
People around me KNOW that I can't see them, because there's a fucking piece of plastic covering my face, and pads covering my ears.
I'm gonna be honest, google glass was a lot more practical than this, sure google glass was expensive and you got made fun of, but now we have vr headsets for the masses, would a google glass like device succeed if it was under 300$?
...why are there eyeballs on the glasses below her eyes? Like, what am I actually looking at?
Are they cameras?
Can't imagine how obnoxious that must be for everyone around you
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