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[–] [email protected] 81 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It also sends your IMAP credentials to their servers and receives the mail there, it's not done locally like the older versions.

[–] wreckedcarzz 26 points 5 months ago

Fuuuuuck that~

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The twisted reasoning is probably so that the users can access the emails anywhere with their live account (and so that MS can scrape those mails for all sorts of creepy shit)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Just to do it, IMAP already covers using multiple devices on an email account.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

„Better user experience“ they said.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

This is the worst part to me. All this just to “cloud sync” or something silly.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Kinda OT, but writing about privacy and then presenting an abysmal way to opt out of 160+ trackers is pure, hypocritical, rich irony.

Yes, I'm talking to you, ghacks.net.

[–] perviouslyiner 14 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Remember when Microsoft pushed hard on marketing "don't be Scroogled" for this stuff?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Good call. Here's a snapshot of scroogled.com in 2013 from the wayback machine.

Google goes through every Gmail that's sent or received, looking for keywords so they can target Gmail users with paid ads. And there's no way to opt out of this invasion of your privacy. Outlook.com is different—we don't go through your email to sell ads.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

This didn't age well. Not that Microsoft were above board back then either.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

always been

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Any outlook alternative that doesn't look pre-dotcom? I really liked the Microsoft Mail app for its simplicity and the ability to have multiple inboxes, it's a shame it is being replaced by outlook.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Thunderbird still isn't too much of a looker, but it got a lot better recently after they added the vertical layout and made a bunch of smaller improvements. I've been using it for a few months now (after having avoiding it for maybe a decade), and I'm pretty enthusiastic about it.

[–] jasep 4 points 5 months ago

I've been looking at options for my older clients as MS has been pushing this new Outlook client. Thunderbird is unfortunately fugly compared to more modern looking apps. I haven't been successful transitioning any of those older folks to using Thunderbird as it's too different for them.

I've been rolling back the Outlook installs but it's just a bandaid. I'd love to hear that's there's a comparable replacement to the W10 mail app.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I tried using it a while back but went back to Mail app. Will try again, esp since I'm planning to move to Ubuntu as the main os.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Good luck! Aesthetically I find Geary to be the best client for GNOME, but Thunderbird has more advanced features and broader support. :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

There's also Betterbird, a fork of Thunderbird which retains some user-liked features that Mozilla removed as well as some bug fixes.

[–] iturnedintoanewt 2 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

uninstall the 'new' outlook app and use the 'old' mail app if you must. can at least do that, until they forcibly remove the old one and migrate users.

the new-look thunderbird is ok, as is emclient (proprietary but free-to-use version is available).

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago

Mozilla Thunderbird is free and open source (foss)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

It's a microsoft product, What the fuck do you expect?

[–] Asudox 6 points 5 months ago

no shit sherlock