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Well that was an absolute banger of a season. Upsets, playoff controversy, heartbreak, ecstasy and whatever the hell CU was doing. This poll will likely stay open for a week or two to let people who may not visit a cfb community as much in the postseason still have a chance to submit a ballot. It has been an absolute pleasure hanging out with this tiny community, and hopefully it continues to grow. Speaking of community, shout out to @[email protected], who very nearly predicted the final score of the NC game with a prediction of 35-17, you can almost pick my lottery numbers anytime.

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[–] Brent 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I’ve given up on CFB. Its so tilted toward the SEC and Big 10, both in perception and funding, that there’s only a little drama to wring out. Especially true where it concerns Alabama.

I don’t see any way to preserve college athletics with integrity. Better to move to a system of club teams in college towns.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Promotion/relegation included?

[–] g0d0fm15ch13f 1 points 9 months ago

I would love a promotion/relegation format if it maintained regionality and allowed for cross division rivalry games to continue (though I have no clue how that would fuck up the relegation system).

[–] g0d0fm15ch13f 1 points 9 months ago

This is exactly why I will always maintain that regional rivalries (or whatever ND does) is the best part of this sport and should be a serious indicator of program quality. In this case it doesn't matter if the SEC and the 2PAC are on different levels, because what's important is beating the foes that are on your playing level. Sure, having conference champs getting autobids in the playoff is a logical extension of that notion. But I believe the bigger the field gets, the more potential there is for lopsided games.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My final ballot. Computer poll. Who's got it better than Michigan? Evidently absolutely nooooobody. But it's pretty standard that my poll puts the CFP winner ahead by a wide margin (a notable exception being when it declared an OSU as the national champion in 2017).

I know it's weird that Oregon finished ahead of Washington, although it's really close. Keep in mind this is essentially a power rating -- put those 2 teams on a neutral site tomorrow and I'm sure Vegas would still favor Oregon despite the H2H. For the record, I personally don't but I tried to eliminate as much bias as possible from the algorithm.

Also, pretty happy with Texas at number 5. It was a good season.

Bonus musing: Since I've ran the last 9 CFB seasons through the same algorithm, I was curious how this Michigan team compares to other top teams. Turns out the 2023 Wolverines rank number 4 out of 1,106 FBS teams^1^, trailing only 2022 Georgia, 2019 LSU, and 2021 Georgia (in that order). Also, if any sickos are wondering who the worst team was, it's likely 2020 UMass (or 2019 UMass if you want to exclude the COVID year).

^1^Apparently half my data for the 2018 season got wiped somehow, but fortunately it kept the top 70 teams. I'll have to crunch that season's numbers again at some point, but at least it won't have any bearing on the comparison of elite teams. Also, in 2020 I only ranked 127 teams since 3 opted out, and that season in general had a slightly adjusted formula for obvious reasons.

::: spoiler Full ranking:

Rank Change Team Record Points
1 - Michigan 15-0 1217
2 +4 Georgia 13-1 1021
3 -1 Oregon 12-2 994
4 +1 Washington 14-1 988
5 -2 Texas 12-2 935
6 -2 Florida State 13-1 865
7 +4 Notre Dame 10-3 851
8 - Alabama 12-2 850
9 -2 Ohio State 11-2 849
10 -1 Oklahoma 10-3 824
11 -1 Penn State 10-3 806
12 +1 Arizona 10-3 794
13 +2 Kansas State 9-4 760
14 -2 Louisville 10-4 755
15 +3 Missouri 11-2 746
16 -2 SMU 11-3 745
17 - LSU 10-3 724
18 +3 Ole Miss 11-2 722
19 -3 Liberty 13-1 703
20 +10 Tennessee 9-4 698
T21 +7 USC 8-5 695
T21 +5 Virginia Tech 7-6 695
23 -1 Kansas 9-4 684
24 - Clemson 9-4 677
25 -3 Texas A&M 7-6 676
26 +3 Oklahoma State 10-4 673
27 -7 Oregon State 8-5 669
28 -9 Iowa 10-4 668
29 -3 Duke 8-5 667
30 -5 Troy 11-3 666
31 -1 Wisconsin 7-6 653
32 +9 Maryland 8-5 650
33 -1 Miami (FL) 7-6 647
34 +12 West Virginia 9-4 643
35 +5 UCLA 8-5 639
T36 -2 Miami (OH) 11-3 637
T36 +1 Utah 8-5 637
T36 -1 UCF 6-7 637
39 -7 North Carolina 8-5 634
40 +4 Kentucky 7-6 625
41 -2 Iowa State 7-6 624
42 -4 JMU 11-2 623
T43 -2 Toledo 11-3 621
T43 - NC State 9-4 621
45 -10 New Mexico State 10-5 618
46 -1 Boise State 8-6 613
47 - Appalachian State 9-5 612
48 +10 South Alabama 7-6 611
49 +3 UTSA 9-4 610
50 +5 Georgia Tech 7-6 606
51 +6 Texas Tech 7-6 603
52 -4 Auburn 6-7 598
53 -2 UNLV 9-5 594
54 +5 Memphis 10-3 584
55 +4 Northwestern 8-5 583
56 -3 Tulane 11-3 580
57 +7 Fresno State 9-4 575
58 +10 Air Force 9-4 570
59 +8 Rutgers 7-6 569
60 +6 Ohio 10-3 568
61 -13 Washington State 5-7 564
62 -12 Nebraska 5-7 559
63 +1 Jacksonville State 9-4 556
64 -11 TCU 5-7 549
65 -3 California 6-7 546
66 +5 Northern Illinois 7-6 543
T67 +5 Wyoming 9-4 534
T67 +12 Boston College 7-6 534
69 -13 Florida 5-7 533
70 +5 Minnesota 6-7 529
71 +5 Bowling Green 7-6 527
72 - San Jose State 7-6 526
73 +4 Louisiana 6-7 517
74 -13 South Carolina 5-7 516
75 -12 Illinois 5-7 513
76 +7 Texas State 8-5 510
77 -9 Colorado 4-8 507
78 -8 Purdue 4-8 504
79 +23 USF 7-6 503
80 +6 Coastal Carolina 8-5 496
81 -7 Syracuse 6-7 495
82 +3 Western Kentucky 8-5 491
83 -2 Rice 6-7 482
84 -6 Arkansas 4-8 471
85 +9 Old Dominion 6-7 467
86 +2 Georgia Southern 6-7 465
T87 +9 Arkansas State 6-7 462
T87 -7 Houston 4-8 462
89 -7 Pittsburgh 3-9 456
90 +15 Georgia State 7-6 452
91 +4 Utah State 6-7 450
92 -9 Wake Forest 4-8 449
93 +5 Marshall 6-7 444
94 -7 BYU 5-7 441
95 -6 Mississippi State 5-7 434
96 -6 Cincinnati 3-9 432
T97 -6 FAU 4-8 431
T97 -6 Indiana 3-9 431
99 -6 Virginia 3-9 429
100 -3 UNT 5-7 418
101 -3 Colorado State 5-7 416
102 -1 Eastern Michigan 6-7 413
103 -3 Middle Tennessee 4-8 412
104 -1 Baylor 3-9 404
105 -1 Sam Houston 3-9 402
T106 -1 San Diego State 4-8 392
T106 -1 Buffalo 3-9 392
108 - Hawaii 5-8 387
109 - Central Michigan 5-7 383
110 - ECU 2-10 380
T111 - Ball State 4-8 379
T111 - Arizona State 3-9 379
T113 - Army 5-6 377
T113 - Western Michigan 4-8 377
115 - Michigan State 4-8 372
116 - UAB 4-8 371
117 - UTEP 3-9 367
118 - Louisiana Tech 3-9 360
119 - Navy 5-6 355
120 - Connecticut 3-9 353
121 - Akron 2-10 352
T122 - New Mexico 4-8 348
T122 - Stanford 3-9 348
T124 - Charlotte 3-9 345
T124 - Vanderbilt 2-10 345
126 - Tulsa 4-8 342
127 - FIU 4-8 338
128 - Southern Mississippi 3-9 329
129 - Nevada 2-10 324
130 - Massachusetts 3-9 312
131 - Temple 3-9 304
132 - UL Monroe 2-10 284
133 - Kent State 1-11 259
[–] g0d0fm15ch13f 1 points 9 months ago

Is this because they get extra games to influence the algorithm?