this post was submitted on 03 Jan 2024
26 points (93.3% liked)

Asklemmy

44151 readers
1741 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy 🔍

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_[email protected]~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

What is the industry/production grade solutions or if you have already any experience please share it. Thanks

all 14 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Yeah, Postgres might be better, like the people in the other answers say.

For the people though, maybe OP as well, who haven't got free rein on what DB system they use because they might be doing this for work, or they might already have a lot built on MySQL, or they might be hosting software that only works with MySQL:

https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/8.0/en/replication.html

Create read replicas, route read traffic to them. You can scale reads out on MySQL or any other relational DB really by using read replicas, you usually can't scale writes horizontally though. The one thing you should check in addition to your traffic profile vis-à-vis reads vs. writes is whether read replicas still provide consistency, ergo if a write on the master immediately appears on the replicas.

Databases usually have two choices there; they either have replicas lag behind the master, meaning that something you wrote to the master will not always appear immediately on the read replicas, or they lock the whole system up on each write to guarantee you are reading the latest info. I guess MySQL would tend to the saner former option.

If you have any reads that are really important to be consistent with writes done just before them, just route them to the master if you still have capacity there.

[–] incompetentboob 4 points 11 months ago

Thank you for answering the question like a helpful person instead of just instantly posting “you’re wrong and you should use this instead”

It’s so frustrating when someone doesn’t understand that there are constraints that OP hasn’t included because it’s not relevant to the question.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

To build on this (and I also use Postgres, so I'm assuming MySQL/MariaDB are similar), there is almost certainly a metric emitted by the DBs that can tell you how long that lag is between initial write and replica updates. That would be the thing to monitor to detect the specific problem where replication lag creates application lag.

Also worth mentioning that horizontal scaling can solve some problems, but there are a few major configuration items to check that will improve performance across all the replicas. Off the cuff:

  • Properly index your tables
  • Build on hardware big enough to keep indexed data in memory
  • Don't use the MyISAM engine with MySQL since it has a bunch of performance and locking problems. Upgrade to InnoDB.
  • Optimize your queries. Horizontal scaling won't give you much improvement if you're doing full table scans or something like that. ORMs can produce some pretty ugly SQL sometimes. Consider writing your own queries that are better optimized to make use of your indices.
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

It's also important to consider that horizontal scaling has limits, when you enable replication it does put additional load on the write instance and a naively configured replication setup will add additional load for every replica.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm glad someone else said it... It may sound glib but the performance limits between Postgres and MySQL are night and day.

More seriously though... Read replication is how you horizontally scale any RDBMS. Read replication unlocks a serious amount of read bandwidth but it comes at a (usually steep) technical cost to migrate logic to be handle aware - especially when it comes to complex transactions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I may suggest Galera Cluster. Easy to set up and pretty reliable

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've been eyeing vitess for this personally, haven't needed it yet, so I can't tell you how good it is in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can you help me out here, I tried to setup vitess with kubernetes and vitess-operator but pods were always crashing and there is no proper community support and docs for it. How did you implement it? And how is the support?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Are you following this guide perhaps?

Also make sure you have a storage class setup (for example Longhorn or Rook/Ceph) the operator docs doesn't explicitly mention that requirement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Shardingsphere