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My privacy journey started with a YouTube video by SomeOrdinaryGamers about the Club Penguin Online doxing situation in 2020. Then, through Techlore and other YouTubers, I learned about private browsers, VPNs, password managers, Linux, FOSS, and more. What made you start?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Online ads, they were so annoying to deal with, I tried Adblock (don't use it) then ABP (don't use it) then finally I found UBlock Origin (absolutely use this) and just seeing the amount of unnecessary connections on every single website annoyed me even more. On mobile I used Adaway and looking at the logs for that annoyed me so much I switched to LineageOS.

I "upgraded" to windows 10 and I couldn't deal with how annoying it was with all the bloatware and random notifications so I switched to linux

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Online ads, same here.

Was a small thing, I was vaguely aware of online ads but only at a high level.

Was browsing online for garden sheds then turned the laptop off. Came back in the evening and every single site was pushing ads for gardens sheds.

Did some research and 7 years later, de-googled phone, all social media long since closed, linux (mostly), VPN etc etc.

Not going to pretend I can do anything against state actors (CIA, GCHQ) , my threat actors are businesses, Meta, Amazon, Googlr etc.

Can't beat them all, but I can make my data exepensive to them at least.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Getting into technology in general and realizing just how powerful data made me start caring about these things. The constant abuses coming to light over the years have just reenforced my convictions.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mine started with some random guy posting a google doc about how to use uBlockOrigin to not only block ads but also to block 3rd party scripts & frames, and see what all your internet connected to.

After the paranoia set in from seeing just how many connections are made from every single click, I got intensely interested in how much more I could do to regain privacy. It's been a very deep rabbit hole.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

VERY deep. For myself, I realized that when I got into it, I not only began to give less information to companies, but my way of thinking changed a lot, a lot of new skills in setting up/finding alternatives, good projects were acquired.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, totally agree. It was actually a great growth opportunity to start learning new skills and become more self reliant. Now instead of trusting Google or Microsoft with my data, I can trust myself to keep it safe.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Absolutely. Absolutely. For example, at first I heard a lot about password managers, but I was afraid to store all the data in the cloud and not have control over them. But now I use Keepass, all my passwords are in one database and it is saved in many places. My accounts are now protected and I control the safety of my data. Privacy journey is awesome!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

For me the question should rather be, what made you never start using privacy intrusive tools. And the answer would be simple common sense. But then again, I'm at an age where I can remember not being able to call someone because someone was using the modem in our house.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There were some small things that I can't remember very well (like looking in to lineageOS), but I think the first wake up call to how deep I was in to the google ecosystem was when I stopped my youtube premium account and started looking for alternatives. I found newpipe and got hooked on privacy respecting software like it was a drug. Techlore was a big part from that point on. I watched through go incognito one video at a time while I was at my night job.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, Techlore was huge for me too. His site helped me find a lot of privacy-respecting alternatives. Mr. Robot was also a great show to watch at the time!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I know the name but haven't seen the show, I'll have to check it out. Its funny, years ago I watched the movie Antitrust but it all went over my head. Recently I watched it again and nerded out to the linux/Foss ideaology in it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@paradox2011 @ellioswa Mr. Robot is both timeless and emblematic of the time it was made. Despite how is starts, it spends a lot of time not being a Hackerman show

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Techlore Resources site is awesome, thank you, Henry and team!

[–] kurdunkaroo 5 points 1 year ago

This is a bit personal, but after I lost my job a couple years back. I was missing work because my newly diagnosed illness was getting worse. Got fired in the parking lot (over the phone) of the doctors office that prescribed me the medication that would allow me to go back...was scrolling reddit later that day and saw an article that insurance companies could start denying coverage based on google searches alone, internet searches are not protected by HIPAA. That kicked me right in the gut. I promptly started figuring out how to be more private in the digital space. Haven't looked back!

[–] DeadNinja 4 points 1 year ago

Snowden.

And then to some extent, Cambridge Analytica.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The main one was the mandatory metadata retention laws the Australian Government passed a few years ago. As a pirate I also wanted to protect myself better against any potential future legal issues.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Seems like forever now, but it really started with the proposal of the FRA-law back in 2006. It really was an eye-opener and after that I pretty got into everything to preserve my privacy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Hmm, I don't remember clearly. But I think it started when I first found out about adblockers. That was before uBO existed. From there I learned about trackers and was disgusted how all these websites spy on me. And since it's gotten worse and worse with tracking I fought back harder and harder.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When someone messaged me with a number of personal details about me. I realized that I'd posted too much personally about me and used the same username everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, doxing scared me. I run a large gaming community on Discord and back then, I got paranoid about my personal info getting out. I made a whole persona based off a movie character with his own Instagram profile, address, and separate timezone I had to play by. It was a fun project, but it worked.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Truly awesome speech about why privacy matters. Link.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Same here! I also have a nosy mom, but she's not too great at computers. I'm lucky she's older and barely knows how to copy and paste. Still, I've learned to lock every door, close every window, and make sure I'm not connected to the TV!