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[–] rsuri 89 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Bluesky saw this exodus of people from Twitter show up, and it was a very, very common crowd. … But little by little, they started asking Jay and the team for moderation tools, and to kick people off. And unfortunately they followed through with it. That was the second moment I thought, uh, nope. This is literally repeating all the mistakes we made as a company.”

This is the same problem that all these "free speech platforms" keep running into. Some people will abuse free speech - if nothing else, I think everyone can agree spam is a type of abusive speech. But the difference between abusive speech and ordinary speech isn't a sharp line, and the definitions of "abuse" will vary. So there needs to be some mechanism or rules for deciding what that line is. But all the people that create these platforms instead wanna pretend that line doesn't exist, so they don't create a means of determining it. So then "abuse" becomes whatever the users demand and/or the decisionmakers decide it is. Which is exactly the same as having no free speech to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Which is why I applaud Bluesky’s innovative approach to moderation. It’s truly decentralized and decoupled from the server you’re signed up to.

[–] nutsack 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 66 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Bluesky has moderation accounts you can follow like regular accounts that basically flag or hide posts according to how you configure them. This differs from the Fedi model where your chosen instance dictates what you see. There is the standard account that every user follows by default, but even that can be configured to your liking. And if you don’t want it on, you can disable it and follow a different account that moderates content to your liking.

I, for once, don’t like seeing insects, something that shouldn’t be moderated because there are valid reasons for posting pictures of insects. On Bluesky, I can follow a moderation account for phobias and have it hide any pictures I wouldn’t wanna see.

Thanks to that, Bluesky is more flexible IMO and requires me to do less for more. Unlike the fediverse where I have to maintain my own filter lists which don’t always work when pictures get posted without alt text or keywords found in the filter list.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago (3 children)

That...actually sounds cool? So why is this considered a mistake?

[–] HighElfMage 38 points 6 months ago

Because Jack Dorsey is obsessed with the same "free speech absolutism" that Elon Musk is, and he's butter that people don't want to be shown Nazi propaganda, hate speech, and all that other shit on his platforms.

Dorsey is an idiot, just like Musk. Don't let their money fool you.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

I don’t know, don’t ask me. People always find stupid shit to be outraged about, but this one is really not it tbh. I personally love it and hope the Fediverse adopts something similar to it or even just reuses the same open source code for these labeling accounts (as they’re called over there), albeit adapted to the ActivityPub protocol.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 18 points 6 months ago

So why is this considered a mistake?

I imagine that much granularity fucks with their efforts to introduce ads.

[–] nutsack 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

ah interesting. can i check to see how many blacklists ive ended up on

[–] kcuf 3 points 6 months ago

You could always brute force comparisons between different mods

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

They've designed their platform so that you can outsource different aspects to different servers. So you can choose a moderator who curates your experience and that's a different person from who hosts your data, which may be different to who sorts and determines the 'top posts'.