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[–] Shadowq8 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Is it an expensive thing to do ? Can only rich people do it ? I want to buy freezers and sell people into being cryogenically frozen, but affordable

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Yes, it is expensive, as your freezer has to be set at temperatures below -80°C/-112°F, down to -196°C/-321°F, and maintained this way for decades without single interruption.

This requires expensive equipment and draws insane amounts of power, and also necessitates multiple power backups.

There is currently no way to do it on a budget.

[–] set_secret 8 points 6 months ago

If you read the article that explains it this is incorrect. Once it's set up it requires no power, only liquid nitrogen. So it's black out proof too.

You're not 'frozen' you're 'vitrified', the main difference being your cells don't get damaged (as much)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (3 children)

There is currently no way to do it on a budget.>

Launch the capsule into space in an orbit around earth that's always obscure from the sun?

Not a "budget" option but definitely a hell lot cheaper in the long run (decades, or even centuries).

[–] madcaesar 10 points 6 months ago

Even better, just incinerate the them and tell them they'll be floating in space!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

TIL things still get hot in space under direct sunlight. I always assumed space would be cold even in sunlight but apparently not.

anyway, I would think you could still be in a sunlit orbit as long as you had a reflective shield for shading. You'll probably still need power to maintain temps and monitor status, so solar energy would still be helpful.

[–] CommissarVulpin 4 points 6 months ago

Fun fact! During the Apollo flights to and from the Moon, the spacecraft would perform “Passive Thermal Control” or “barbecue roll” where it would rotate around its long axis about once per hour, to distribute the thermal load from the sun and keep one side from heating up too much

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Is there such an orbit? That should be an orbit with a period of 1 year, which is far outside Earth's sphere of gravitational influence.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You could just attach their frozen heads to the dark side of the Webb telescope if they can afford it!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Imagine an operation to retrieve those heads

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

That sounds like a job for future-people!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

if we're at the point that we can revive a frozen corpse, I think we can easily retrieve a floating capsule orbiting earth.

[–] NikkiDimes 3 points 6 months ago

Yup! Larange point 2, where we parked the JWST!

[–] set_secret 4 points 6 months ago

Also there is currently a way to do it on a budget, see aforementioned article.

(basically you can do it with a life insurance plan of around 40 a month if you're reasonably young).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Aside from cost there's also the issue of law, requiring people die of natural causes beforehand means most people will turn to soup before their brain can have any hope of being preserved.

I have cynicism for lots of things involved here, but if I had the option from some shady person who seems like they are capable and vaguely aligned with me I'd probably take the chance especially if we could make some sort of a post-revival agreement. What a brain (put into a small machine and ideally alongside symbiotic systems) can do for the people who are still alive. Probably with my brain in a jar living in VR until the details are worked out.

And if it doesn't work out that way, well... That's gooood soup!