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He is now denying the validity of dna tests. I don’t want to say the past 35 years of having him treat me worse than he treats his sister had anything to do with his assumptions of my dna, but he was upset to learn that I am more Irish than him. I wonder what he thought of my mother before these results…

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not surprising. My mother was told by her mother that one of her great grandmothers was full blooded native (no specific tribe) which would make me 1/16 native. DNA showed 0% and one my mother took showed 0% for her. She chalked it up to her mother being nuts but it is a fairly common American family myth.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I had one of these in my family as well. I didn't do the DNA test but went on ancestry and kinda pieced stuff together way back to when the majority of the family tree crossed over the Atlantic. There's maybe one or two people that are suspect (orphan like circumstances). I can't follow their trees or place them but I don't have strong confidence either of them were the missing Native American. It's made harder by the common practice of making Native Americans take more English names.

I do wonder if the DNA testing could get it wrong in any case. There are so few Native Americans still alive to collect the DNA and really get a picture of "this is what Native American DNA looks like." There were a lot of Native American nations before Europeans showed up ... and a lot were driven to near extinction between smallpox and war.

I'm also the only man I know that's got an effectively hairless chest naturally despite a lot of hairy European lineage... That's been linked to Native Americans (or was at least more common) so maybe there is something to the stories. I don't particularly want to take a DNA test to see what it would say.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

In my case the story was definitely believable when I was younger. My grandmother and one of her sisters were orphaned and sent to a workhorse because my great grandparents could not afford them. I used to think my grandmother did not know her parents but using ancestry.com my mom connected with someone who she thought was simply a family friend growing up but turned out to be her cousin from her aunt who was not orphaned. Going through my ancestry, there is almost certainly nobody who is native. Grandma may have been a little nuts (one of the caregivers beat her do bad that she lost an eye so being a little nutty is fairly understandable).

Good point on few data points for native Americans. Many of them stay the fuck away from DNA testing nowadays so I don't see that changing anytime soon.