Forgotten Weapons
This is a community dedicated to discussion around historical arms, mechanically unique arms, and Ian McCollum's Forgotten Weapons content. Posts requesting an identification of a particular gun (or other arm) are welcome.
https://www.youtube.com/@ForgottenWeapons
https://www.forgottenweapons.com/
Rules:
1) Treat Others in a Civil Manner. This is not the place to deride others for their race, sexuality, or etc. Personal insults of other members are not welcome here. Neither are calls for violence.
2) No Contemporary Politics Historical politics that influenced designs or adoption of designs are excluded from this rule. Acknowledgement of existing laws to explain designs is also permissable, so long as comments aren't in made to advocate or oppose a policy. Let's not make this a place where we battle over which color ties our politicians should have, or the issues of today.
3) No Advertising This rule doesn't apply to posting historical advertisements or showing more contemporary ads as a means of displaying information on an appropriate topic. The aim of this rule is to combat spam/irrelevant advertising campaigns.
4) Keep Post on Topic This rule will be enforced with leeway. Just keep it related to arms or Forgotten Weapons or closely adjacent content. If you feel you have something that's worth posting here that isn't about either of those (and doesn't violate other rules) feel free to reach out to a mod.
5) No NSFW Content Please refrain from posting uncensored extreme gore or sexualized content. If censored these posts may be fine.
Post Guide Lines
These are suggestions not rules.
-Provide a duration for videos. eg. [12:34]
-Provide a year to either indicate when a specific design was produced, patented, or released. If you have an older design being used in a recent conflict provide the year the picture was taken. Dates should be included to help contextualize, not necessarily give exact periods.
-Post a full URL, on mobile devices it can be hard to tell what you're clicking on if you only see "(Link)".
-Posts do not have to be just firearms. Blades, bows, etc. are also welcome.
Adjacent Communities
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True lol.
I think the PS90 is about 1500 new, which will be more with taxes and fees and waiting times.
Its only a grand and a half for your goofy space gun rofl!
Huh. I figured much more. That's actually cheaper than the handgun I want with all the accessories (I want the pistol Snake has in MGS1). Last time I looked, just the gun was nearly $1200.
The Mark 23 'SOCOM'?
Yeah I am seeing prices of between 2200 to 2700 for a new one of those, depending on specific finishes and grips and whatnot.
Probably about another grand for the suppressor, if theyre legal in your state.
Gunbroker barely even has any, one or two are cheaper than that but not by much, many are much more expensive (4 to 5k) collector bundles.
Yeah, you can get an actual semi auto rifle, a pretty nice one, for 2200 to 2700.
I am pretty sure the SOCOM is absurdly expensive because... its HK, its quite popular amongst military history afficionados, and its been in several games and movies rather prominently.
I was gonna post this earlier, but yeah the gun market is currently quite odd right now in that there are many, many popular pistols that are literally as or more expensive than roughly equally popular semi auto rifles.
I think a Bren 2, new, is currently cheaper than a new Mark 23, at about 2000.
Here is Cabelas for the Mk 23 (HK doesnt directly sell anything but parts):
https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/hk-mark-23-semi-auto-pistol
$2500
And here is a Bren 2 from CZ:
https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-bren-2-ms-carbine/
$2000
Not sure when you last checked prices on a Mk23 for it to be only 1200 lol.
Or perhaps either you or I have a different Solid Snake pistol in mind?
Best of luck with getting the LAM for it. I wouldn't be shocked if you had to pay 5k+ in total for something like that. Since Snake used a prototype laser aiming module for some reason, your path won't be an easy one.
To be fair to the P90, $1500 isn't unreasonable for a new semi auto rifle (especially one that lacks the AR's economy of scale).
But to be even more fair, it is a lot for something with a clamshell plastic design.
It is also unfortunately not really a rifle caliber... Its quite an odd duck.
You could get a semi decent actual semi auto rifle for that price, or a cheaper AR styled pistol chambered in .22.
Ive actually seen a good number of vids that show that .22 (magnum) actually has pretty comparable ballistics and penetration to the much more expensive and often low in stock 5.7x28.
I am not personally aware of a 'tactical' style weapon in .22 magnum with large ammo capacity, but I am sure something like that exists.