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Survey finds that 60 firms are responsible for half of world’s plastic pollution
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 01 May 2024
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No. They're making cheap plastic shit because their constant lobbying against common sense regulation and a living wage means that the cheap plastic shit is all most of us can afford.
Also known as a consumer prioritization of being able to survive without being TOO crushed by debt. You're really slathering the victim blaming on thick.
Bullshit. You have the power relationship backwards. The vast majority of humanity can't afford high quality sustainable packaging because the premium companies demand for it is ridiculous. Because they know they can as long as useful fools blame the consumers.
Sounds awfully close to just that, though.
They absolutely are not. A company has the option to make the packaging better at the same price in exchange for a couple cents less profit per bottle. A customer, who already doesn't have the vast resources with which to choose that a company has, would have to pay several times that, often several dollars, extra to get the "premium" glass bottle.
That's like saying that the Sultan of Brunei's palace is obviously much larger than my apartment: while technically true, the difference of scale is so vast that any direct comparison is effectively meaningless.
Nope. They produce cheap plastic shit to maximize profits because they're allowed to. We buy cheap plastic shit to minimize costs because we have to. Those are not the same reason.
Yes! This better be good..
Companies would just pass the cost on to consumers as always. If you do that AND price control, then we have something!
Another example of something that's a great idea in theory but end up not working as intended because it's too easy for big companies to avoid the intended consequences. Carbon taxes with no transferrable carbon credits and the aforementioned price control could work, though.
Taxes work. You just need additional mechanisms too, to prevent the kind of fuckery companies get up to.
In no universe is coca cola "all you can afford". You could replace it with tap water and be better off in every way.
Yeah because there's nothing physically, mentally and even socially addictive about the number one brand in the world, packed with sugar, high fructose corn syrup, and/or questionable sweeteners 🙄
Next you're gonna share the brilliant insight that it's cheaper to not smoke tobacco..
Are you suggesting people should not be encouraged to quit smoking?
No, I'm saying that it's not that simple to just forgo something addictive.
I'm an ex smoker (and ex drinker) myself, so while I would never recommend smoking (or drinking to excess), I have very little patience for people assuming or implying that addictions are easily kicked.
That shit can control significant parts of your whole life, sometimes in subtle ways you weren't even aware of.
So, you agree people should not start drinking Coca Cola, and for their own health and finances they should make every effort to stop drinking Coca Cola.
Yeah, but it isn't that simple, is what I'm saying.
You're pretending that it's a completely unencumbered choice. That there's no social and societal pressures making lifelong coca cola abstinence viewed as evidence of being in a cult or mentally unwell.
Likewise, addictions fight you hard when you try to get rid of them, much harder than anyone who's never been addicted can even imagine.
Fact is that it's NOT an unencumbered choice at all, and pretending otherwise doesn't help anyone.