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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Hopefully by then Poettering will have retired and stopped inflicting his software in people.

How did he get so much influence over most mainstream distros? Asking for a friend...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

he never, distros adopted systemd because it works, no one forced them, end of the history

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, that's too rational. What leverage does he have on all of these distro maintainers? Someone needs to get to the bottom of this! /s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

As far as I remember Poettering worked for IBM's RedHat for some time and then the systemd lobbying vibe became stronger (with Fedora being the RedHat toy). Nowadays Poettering works for Microsoft, btw.

lmao found one answer exactly like that

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because the software he writes starts out good, and solves problems. systemd is a really nice initd replacement. Pulseaudio really improved audio on Linux. Distros adopted them because they were good.

The problem is feature creep, exactly like the OP post. For some reason, Poettering's projects can't contain themselves to a problem space. Converting init systems is a lot of work, and even if Debian had recognized the feature-creep of systemd as undesirable, there was no way they were going through all of the pain and suffering of another migration. Plus, there isn't yet a clear successor to systemd. My money is on dinit; s6 is simply too complex, and has too many commands to remember. But the point is, systemd was an excellent initd replacement, and there was a lot of adoption when that's all it was. And as it grew, distros were already committed and stuck with it (although, journald was there from the beginning, and that should have sounded warning bells).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

don't use the features, lol "nooo how dare them put new optionals features 😭😭"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

As far as I remember Poettering worked for IBM's RedHat for some time and then the systemd lobbying vibe became stronger (with Fedora being the RedHat toy). Nowadays Poettering works for Microsoft, btw.