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I don't mean for this to become a KDE vs GNOME post. I'm looking at switching to Fedora (because Arch is a pain), and it seems that GNOME is more supported. I use KDE on Arch. What features would I be losing if I were to switch? (ex: toolbar management, KRunner, etc.)

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

No, KDE is just as well supported on Fedora, dont worry. I use it daily.

I also highly recommend using Fedora Kinoite from https://ublue.it

It is way more reliable, you cannot imagine how much. It is the best distribution model in my experience, you never have to worry about updates breaking anything, and you can always go back to vanilla.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I just started to daily Bazzite, which is Kinoite but made for gaming. Can confirm it is so reliable it's crazy. Best fresh install experience by a mile.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Yes for sure.

  • Fedora packagers do the heavy lifting of shipping the packages
  • ostree pulls in and versions the OCI images
  • rpm-ostree layers RPMs onto the base image but on their side, so they can install exactly what they need. Its all CI/CD Github actions
  • they include all the files needed for a perfect experience
  • they have yafti and ublue-update, which fill the gaps
  • on your machine, rpm-ostree just needs to update
[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you like and trust Homebrew for packages, yes.

I have to try it, am kinda suspicious but I guess it is a good distribution method?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I had never used homebrew before switching to bluefin. Honestly I still hardly use it. Most gui things I can find flatpaks and command line stuff I'll search homebrew, but just as easy to open Ubuntu distrobox and apt install or install a .deb

I love that everything is updating constantly. That you can roll back easily if you mess something bad. That all system files are immutable so. Also super easy to rebase from to bluefin to ublue to Aurora to Bazzite to kinoite.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I dont get why they push Ubuntu so much. I use a Fedora toolbox which works great... apart from the fact that there is no damn upgrade! So only rawhide possible, lol.

Rebasing and rpm-ostree are truly beautiful. And adapting to it, for example packaging stuff written to /usr into an RPM, is interesting.

I have at least 2 use cases (placing different SDDM launch scripts, SDDM themes and something else) that need to be written to the immutable directory.

I think documenting how to package "put script abc to /usr/foo/bar" into an RPM, or even automate it, will be lit. Will try to figure that out when I have time.

Lunarequest did this with sddm2rpm but only for that job.