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Possible snipers seen at OSU. Administration says they're not snipers but should be treated like they are. (midwest.social)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Update, yes there are snipers:

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Let’s try this again without the Tiananmen Square Massacre copy pasta, at the explicit request of “seahorse” the Midwest social owner:

The difference between the two is that there was no weapon here. You can’t even make out what’s in front of the dude in black but most everyone here took a Twitter post as fact.

The Tiananmen Square massacre, on the other hand, did happen and did kill people. That’s the difference here.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I responded to the comment with the copypasta. Anyway, the point isn't China good, the point is making fun of all the people in the US that screech about Chinese authoritarianism like we haven't been captured by our own stupid fucking brand of authoritarianism.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

We can keep that chain here one sec [edited]

I definitely agree, I’m all for ACAB. I was just making the express observation (prior to my comment being deleted by the owner) that, this is not one of those cases.

If we aren’t fair, reasonable, and dead honest on these points in our protests, they won’t be taken seriously. And when protests aren’t take seriously things get dangerous, and I don’t want to see legitimate protest against the police state turn into damnation or terrorism charges, more than they already are.

Thanks for being civil and having a conversation about this

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"The difference between the two is that there was no weapon here."

[+] [email protected] -6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Source?

Edit: downvoting someone for asking to provide source for your claim. Guess we’re cool with making stuff up. To those interested: look into how Russia was caught with their Facebook farms setup in Africa to sow disinformation ahead of the 2016 election season.

I won’t feel bad for asking for legitimate source information.

[–] whotookkarl 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/04/26/snipers-college-protests-gaza/

Nothing conclusive I can see yet from AP etc, but it is a bit suspicious the universities and police are not responding/stonewalling requests for information from journalists, if they had no snipers how hard would it be to say there were no snipers?

Also a healthy skepticism isn't afraid of questioning sources I wouldn't apologize for it either, but it can also be a rhetorical tactic that sometimes is difficult to tell if it's genuine or not. Not an excuse just an observation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I appreciate your candor and civility, it's much easier for us to talk and correct any miscommunications when we're at the same level. Thank you.

I totally agree, the whole thing screams PR/scrambling to quench any flames, rather than to just come forth with the raw, uncensored/stretched truth. We deserve to have that from our government at the very fucking least.