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[+] Whelks_chance -13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Not to argue on behalf of publishers, but the papers aren't written for free. It's part of the job of being a researcher, it's a significant KPI for which you're hired and receive a wage.

Reviewing for free is pretty much bullshit though. As is paying to read them afterwards, if your research institution doesn't pay to publish in an open access journal

[–] Damionsipher 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's not the publishers paying the researcher's salaries, they're mostly paid by public institutions and receive funding from government grants. If anything, bl researcher pay structure should result in open access publication.

[–] Whelks_chance -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I didn't say it was the publisher's paying the salaries. My point is that researcher are paid to research, and publishing results is part of that.

[–] captainlezbian 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but this really does just mean we should have a government provided publisher for government funded research. I paid for this research every 4/15 and i shouldn’t have to pay again if I want to see it

[–] Whelks_chance 1 points 8 months ago

Sure, that would work. Or government grants available so anyone who wants to be an editor can apply for funds to get it going. Papers are rarely printed on paper nowadays, so the main costs would be paying editors, paying reviewers, and web hosting.

[–] FinalRemix 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I was hired to teach at a non-research college... except admin are trying to finnegal us into doing off-contract studies and publishing, moving forward. So yes, in the worst cases, it's done even off-wage.

[–] Whelks_chance 2 points 8 months ago

Yup, been there, but the other side of it. Was hired to do research and then teaching suddenly appeared as an expectation.