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Everybody Sucks Here (lemmy.world)

submitted 7 months ago by Ultragigagigantic to c/politicalmemes

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[–] mojo_raisin 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's not just defense against government tyranny. I'm a trans person, I'd like to not feel helpless when attacked and the cops are on the attacker's side. If I'm gonna die or end up incarcerated, I'm gonna do the community a good one and remove a threat on my way out.

So where are all those gun people with their guns given all this government tyranny going on? What are they doing?

Most people on both sides of the gun debate are the victims of propaganda ensuring most guns are in the hands of those controlling the propaganda.

And besides, if any gun owner thinks that they wouldn’t be absolutely steamrolled by the military, they’re lying to themselves.

Full out war against the state isn't the only way guns can be useful for self-defense against tyranny. I don't want my rights taken away because your imagine is small. I agree, a few people w/ AKs are no match against the military.

[–] RGB3x3 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

If I'm gonna die or end up incarcerated, I'm gonna do the community a good one and remove a threat on my way out.

I get that you're in a social group that is more at risk of attack, and I really wish it wasn't that way. However, the kind of mindset you're espousing here is the same justification people use to shoot minorities, or shoot children for walking into their lawns, or to shoot people turning around in their driveways. Too often, people are jumpy, racist, and not mentally equipped to handle guns. There are other things that can be used to defend yourself.

Full out war against the state isn't the only way guns can be useful for self-defense against tyranny.

Please tell me what other way there is. When fighting the government, there's no middle ground between a small group attacking targets and all-out war. And all-out war is not the way anyone wants things to go.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I get that you’re in a social group that is more at risk of attack, and I really wish it wasn’t that way. However, the kind of mindset you’re espousing here is the same justification people use to shoot minorities, or shoot children for walking into their lawns, or to shoot people turning around in their driveways. Too often, people are jumpy, racist, and not mentally equipped to handle guns. There are other things that can be used to defend yourself.

ok, but there's a difference between your rights being actively infringed upon, and being an entitled piece of shit. This is why things like prison exist. And laws.

That guy in florida that mag dumped on the middle of the fucking highway? Definitely shouldn't own a gun, but he also got no punishment for it That shit should be illegal. There are a lot of states where stand your ground laws aren't a thing, my state for instance has pretty specific and strict laws around when you can and cannot shoot people in your own home.

[–] Crashumbc 1 points 7 months ago

There isn't another way, like almost ALL gun owners they are deluding themselves... Guns aren't even good for self defense, for the average person. They are like 5 times more likely to kill themselves with it, or accidentally shoot/kill an innocent...