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[–] [email protected] 67 points 8 months ago (4 children)

IPv6

I mean, why the hell is IPv4 still a thing??

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Because SecOps still thinks NAT is security, and NetOps is decidedly against carrying around that stupid tradition.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

You can even Nat still if you want too lol

That said have you looked at securing ipv6 networks?It can be a lot of new paridgms that need to be secured.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

bruh you could just use dyndns on ipv6 and call it a day, even more secure than ipv4 with NAT. lmao.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Try to remember a handful of them

[–] calcopiritus 29 points 8 months ago (2 children)

In the world of computers, why would remembering numbers be the stop for new technologies?

Do you remember anyone's public key? Certificate?

I don't even remember domain (most) names, just Google them or save them as bookmarks or something.

The reason IPv4 still exists is because ISPs benefit from its scarcity. Big ISPs already paid a lot of money to own IPv4 addresses, if they switched to IPv6 that investnywould be worthless.

Try selling static IPv6 addresses as they do now with IPv4. People would laugh at them and just get a free IPv6 address from an ISP that wants to get new users and doesn't charge for it.

The longer ISPs delay the adoption of IPv6, the longer they can milk IPv4 scarcity.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I don't even remember my old ICQ UIN. People usually do that.

So yes, bring in IPv6.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Which ISPs offer IPv6 for free?
Asking for a friend.

[–] calcopiritus 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

IPv6 addresses are practically endless, therefore their value is practically 0. ISPs justify charging extra for static IPv4 because IPv4 addresses do have a value.

If ISPs charge for static IPv6, then one of them could just give that service for free (while keeping the rest of the prices the same as their competitors). That would get them more customers while costing them nothing.

EDIT: I can't give you an example of an ISP that offers free static IPv6 because there are no ISPs in my country that offer IPv6.

[–] droans 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Should be every single one that supports IPv6.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

For that matter, you should be getting an entire /60 at a minimum. Probably more like /56.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

damn if only we had a service that like, obfuscated and abstracted these hard to remember IPs that aren't very user friendly, and turned them into something more usable. That would be cool i think. Someone should make that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Some kind of name system surely.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

perhaps one that were to operate on like, a domain level, maybe.

gah, i'm just not too sure there's a good term for this though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Shortening rules actually make IPv6 addresses easier to remember than IPv4. Just don't use auto configuration.

[–] foobaz 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

That's just one loopback address.

I could list 2^24 IPv4 loopback addresses.