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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (12 children)

Jews are an ethnic group, culture, and religion, but not a race. It's a common enough misconception spread via the media. Also any given Jew is not necessarily all three.

The lesson from World War II is that war can only delay the spread of an idea, but not destroy it. Ideas have to be fought with other ideas. Killing Nazis only bought us time to think of better ideas, spread them, and deradicalize people. Thanks to conservative propaganda networks and social media, we're on the verge of a fascist takeover. We are in an information race against fascists. The fascists are turning the US into a christofascist dictatorship, by controlling the narrative and driving the news cycle, not by killing anyone. We have to beat them in this race to stop them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Israeli is not the same thing as Jewish.

Many Jewish people hate Israel.

[–] june 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I’d be willing to bet you could find one or two Israelies (Israelites?) that hate Israel too.

[–] John_McMurray 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Israeli is modern inhabitants, Israelites are the ones from the old testament

[–] june 1 points 8 months ago

Got it. Thanks!

I realized when typing I wasn’t sure

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Israeli is not the same thing as Jewish.

Yes, I am Jewish, but not Israeli. I assumed most people referring to Israelis as a race are referring to Jews a race. It seems weird to confuse nationality with race in the 21st century.

Many Jewish people hate Israel.

I don't hate Israel, because hating Israel is more taxing to me than it is to Israel. I think Israel is an apartheid state that's committing genocide and war crimes in Gaza, Zionism is a fascist ideology, the current Israeli government is dominated by fascists, and that the concept that we need a Jewish ethnostate in order to be safe is ridiculous. Israel needs to change radically and it needs to change as soon as possible.

[–] FlyingSquid 11 points 8 months ago (50 children)

"Race" has no biological definition. Star Wars fans can be a race if you want them to.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Typically when people are saying Jews are a race, they referring to the idea that Jews are not White, as in they cannot be White. Jews can be White, but they can also be Black, Native American or Hispanic. Jews are not in a racial category that excludes them from being part of these groups. That's what I was referring to when I wrote race.

That's not really the main point, I was agreeing with the person I responding to and adding some clarification. It seemed to have distracted from the issue at hand.

Killing people isn't how we stop the spread of fascism in the modern day. We need to spread information, for example, that fascism is a self-destructive ideology that will destroy hundreds of millions of lives and that the Republican Party is controlled by fascists. I think most people know that on lemmy, but there are plenty of people who will check into politics in the months leading up to the election and form their opinions then. A misconception I see on lemmy is that some people assume we can defeat fascism with guns alone. That isn't going to cut it. We have to reach more people with true information before fascists reach them with misinformation. Once a person forms an opinion they are unlikely to discard that opinion when presented with new information in the short term. That short term can easily last until the election, so these months leading up to the election are crucial. edit: capitalization

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[–] machinin 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I thought one of the best lessons was that you don't deal with an aggressive and genocidal nation through appeasement.

We should be fighting against Israel, not appeasing them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I thought one of the best lessons was that you don’t deal with an aggressive and genocidal nation through appeasement.

That was also one of the lessons. It's why we are sending weapons to Ukraine to fight Russia and plan on defending Taiwan against China.

We should be fighting against Israel, not appeasing them.

It would be a lot easier to do that if we hadn't be allied with Israel for over 75 years. It's not normal for allies to turn on each other like that.

Regardless, there can be more than one lesson from a historical event. Fascism is an idea. It has to be fought with other ideas.

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