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But of course we all know that the big manufacturers don't do this not because they can't but because they don't want to. Planned obsolescence is still very much the name of the game, despite all the bullshit they spout about sustainability.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 months ago (27 children)

I understand people's desire for a headphone port, but I really don't understand the hate for devices that don't have one. It would be one thing if they vendor-locked Bluetooth headphones so you had to use theirs, but it really just seems like a common sense move in a world where Bluetooth reigns supreme.

As long as a USB-C adapter still provides the same functionality, I really don't see anyone's choices being taken away. If it is one less physical port on the device that helps streamline the hardware, I'm all for it too.

And if it is a dealbreaker, you don't have to buy a fairphone.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (19 children)

The problem is that there are fewer and fewer options with a headphone jack. My current phone has one and I use it all the time.

Bluetooth sucks for a variety of reasons, such as:

  • not private
  • needs to charge (I've had BT headphones die on road trips or whatever)
  • not great sound quality

I also like using bluetooth headphones sometimes, but having an option is good, and I don't want to bring a dongle around everywhere.

[–] Vaderhoff 7 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Honestly most of these points don't make a whole lot sense, yet these are the arguments I see every time wireless ear buds pop up in any conversation. Phones by nature are not private, and honestly, who is trying to intercept Bluetooth close to you anyways? Majority of what they would likely get is "oh another person listening to music or tiktok". I haven't charged my 3 year old $50 Bluetooth buds in weeks, and they are still sitting at great battery health. Proper research and care goes a long way, though the option to have replacement batteries is def a plus. And if you're going on long road trips, just pack an adapter and wired headphones if you're that conscious. What are you doing with your phone that you need top-tier audio quality on the go? Just seems like a very very niche market.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I jut want to address the point with the battery.

To be fair, the charging cases (if we talk about earbuds) are a good idea.

That said, with wired headphones I need to charge one device less, don't have to worry about battery care (no matter how much effort you consider this, it's zero with wired) and it's no factor for the longevity of the device.


Also this:

And if you're going on long road trips, just pack an adapter and wired headphones if you're that conscious.

So I need another pair of headphones and an apdapter vs just one pair of headphones?

[–] Vaderhoff 2 points 5 months ago

I honestly, never really put any extra energy into caring for my battery, it just seems to be fine. When I see it gets low, I just have the reaction to throw it on a charger, and leave it plugged in for a bit, then I'm good for a while. Wired are good backups, yes, but I don't think in this day and age, they are the perfect solution, just the same that wireless are not either. But for my runs to the grocery store, the gym, or going for a hike. I'd rather not have a cable constantly getting in my way, and being able to freely hold and move my phone around with no issue. Of course that would be my use case, possibly making it subjective, but I imagine a lot of common users are pretty much about the same.

On the "needing to have another pair of headphones", I mean why not? I don't know how many wired earbuds, over the ears, and such I had growing up. They weren't high end, or even mid-tier quality, but you could find them pretty easily. Just as easily as you can find them now. Not saying "take two different sets of headphones" with you whenever you go on a trip. That's dumb, you'd have a higher chance of losing something that way. Just take the wired ones, with an adapter because that makes sense for a long trip where you want to conserve battery life and you're just sitting in a car anyway. Also those adapters are pretty tight fitting, I leave mine just stuck to the headphone cable.

I'd also think if you cared about your audio equipment that much, you would probably be probably be able to keep track of a little adapter pretty easily.

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